Ball hitting ball

[Bunker52]

I'm just having a dispute regarding what happens if someone plays their ball, on the fairway, and it lands and hits another ball, again on the fairway, moving it forwards or sideways.

Are both balls played as they lie, or does the one that was hit have to be put back? The incident could be 200yards away.

Googling the answer seems to give multiple answers saying play as they lie, but the R&A rules are a little unclear. If on the green it's clear, but on fairway...?

Was this rule changed recently?

Thanks for advice

 

[rulie]

Not changed, and, imo, very clear. The ball that was at rest must be replaced at its original spot (estimated as required). The ball that was in motion must be played from where it came to rest.

 

[Bunker52]

There are so many links online saying the opposite hence my confusion ..eg. https://forekinggolf.com/what-if-a-ball-hits-another-ball/

 

[Crow]

There are so many links online saying the opposite hence my confusion ..eg. https://forekinggolf.com/what-if-a-ball-hits-another-ball/

Would you sooner believe the R&A rules website or the "Foreking golf" website?

 

[Bunker52]

R&A obviously...just seems to be some confusion hence the query.

 

[rulie]

No confusion in the Rules. Rule 9.6 for the ball at rest and Rule 11.1 for the ball in motion.

 

[rulie]

There are so many links online saying the opposite hence my confusion ..eg. https://forekinggolf.com/what-if-a-ball-hits-another-ball/

There are errors and inconsistencies in that article. Stick to what the Rules say. With respect to the Rules of golf, Google may not be your friend. Use randa.org

 

[Steven Rules]

I agree. It is an incredibly bad article. Let me assure everybody that the author "Steve" is not me! Gives a bad name to Steves and Stevens everywhere!

 

[chrisd]

There are so many links online saying the opposite hence my confusion ..eg. https://forekinggolf.com/what-if-a-ball-hits-another-ball/

Talk about "making it up as you go along" !

 

[Imurg]

And this is how misunderstanding of the rules begins.
Anyone can use a golf related website name, post absolutely anything they like and someone will take it as gospel.
"But I read it on the Internet "
As Abraham Lincoln said " don't believe everything you read on the Internet "

 

[tobybarker]

And this is how misunderstanding of the rules begins.
Anyone can use a golf related website name, post absolutely anything they like and someone will take it as gospel.
"But I read it on the Internet "
As Abraham Lincoln said " don't believe everything you read on the Internet "

I'm sure I read that last bit in the internet someehere

 

[Colin L]

I agree. It is an incredibly bad article. Let me assure everybody that the author "Steve" is not me! Gives a bad name to Steves and Stevens everywhere!

There's a bit of a contradiction here. Steve King is king but Steven Rules rules. ?

Using so many words to get something so simple so wrong is almost an art form. Bad art, though.

 

[Deleted member 23270]

I agree. It is an incredibly bad article. Let me assure everybody that the author "Steve" is not me! Gives a bad name to Steves and Stevens everywhere!

What about Stephens?


Got to ask as you rules guys are sticklers for details ?

 

[rulefan]

What about Stephens?


Got to ask as you rules guys are sticklers for details ?

He hasn't got a bad name. He was a Saint.

 

[Jigger]

Talk about "making it up as you go along" !

You should see some of the videos on instagram!

 

[chrisd]

You should see some of the videos on instagram!

No thanks!

 

[rulefan]

According to the R&A (the governing body of golf), the answer is that both balls must be played as they lie. This rule has not changed recently. The R&A's Rule 19 defines how to proceed when a ball strikes another ball at rest on the course. The Rule states that "If a player's ball in motion after a stroke strikes another ball at rest, the stroke is canceled. The player must play his ball as it lies and may not play the other ball". Therefore, regardless of where the incident takes place (fairway, green, etc.), both balls must be played as they lie.

The Rule has changed. Rule 19 is about an Unplayable Ball.

As said previously, Rule 9.6 for the ball at rest (There is no penalty, and the ball must be replaced on its original spot)

and Rule 11.1 for the ball in motion. (There is no penalty, and the ball must normally be played as it lies unless both balls were on the green when the player gets the general penalty (two penalty strokes) and must replay the stroke)

 

[Neilds]

According to the R&A (the governing body of golf), the answer is that both balls must be played as they lie. This rule has not changed recently. The R&A's Rule 19 defines how to proceed when a ball strikes another ball at rest on the course. The Rule states that "If a player's ball in motion after a stroke strikes another ball at rest, the stroke is canceled. The player must play his ball as it lies and may not play the other ball". Therefore, regardless of where the incident takes place (fairway, green, etc.), both balls must be played as they lie.

As Rule 19 refers to an unplayable ball and has nothing to do with balls moving, then this response should be treated as utter tosh

Edit - Rulefan beat me to it

 

[backwoodsman]

I saw the reply in answer #17 and saw so much wrong with it, coupled with the fact it was a first post, so made me wonder if there was an ulterior motive behind it?

 

[rulefan]

I saw the reply in answer #17 and saw so much wrong with it, coupled with the fact it was a first post, so made me wonder if there was an ulterior motive behind it?

I think he's just got an old Rule Book.