jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
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Avoiding comps
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jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
I have given up playing in comps simply because I am paying for winnings to go in to the pro shop when I have no need for anything golf related.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Our competition winnings go into the pro shop and any I get pay for me entering more competitions
We hav
We have our comp winnings onto the shop account but we also have a little roll up bet as well so even though you may miss out on top 3 in the divisions and money from the club you can still get a payout from those in the bet.Our competition winnings go into the pro shop and any I get pay for me entering more competitions
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
We play medals off any tee…doesn’t seem to slow things down when a group is mixed tees…though speaking with our golf manager the club’s experience is that the vast majority of members playing in a medal play off our back tees…prob as most of us get 2 extra shots from back tees compared with the next set.
Those playing from a more forward tee are usually higher handicappers and much shorter hitters - and actually what happens is that they tend to tee off before the rest of us as, even given the forward position they usually can’t reach the group in front - so speeding things up.
mister v
Newbie
this weekend is our first board comp , there is 1st, 2nd and 3rd for gross as well as 1st, 2nd and 3rd for nett. The board name is the gross winner
I think its £3 to enter and then a £1 for the sweep and £1 for 2's
I think its £3 to enter and then a £1 for the sweep and £1 for 2's
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
We have separate comps for men and ladies.Just outta interest CC. Because I don’t know the Answer, but in todays comp we had four divisions with both men and women in the divisions.
But before WHS. We had white tees, yellow tees for seniors and red tees for women. Do all clubs now Chuck everyone in the same comp.
But every other Sat a club comp for everyone.
Seniors don’t have their own comps as such just a seniors club champs for both sexes. And seniors opens x3.
All comps are off whites for men ,red for ladies.
Seniors is off yellow but few and far between.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Off topic but if a free tee choice is available is two shots really enough at your course? There's also a two shot diff between tees for me but if I had a choice of tees in a comp i'd be going forward because there's around an 6-8 shot difference in playability and around 500 yards shorter
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
In my case I find the yellow tees harder ,mainly because the bunkers are in play off the yellows but I can’t reach most of them off the whites.
The fairways narrow as well but off the whites there is more room in the landing area.
I lose two shots off yellow almost a third of my shots but the course plays the same if you have to lay up because of the trouble off the tee.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Four sets of tees, off 7.3 from back to most forward my CH is 9,7,5,2. Could I play to 2 off most forward…probably, though I’ve never tried.
As CC98 I find playing to PH off back tees generally a bit easier - though it’s def more risky…I manage as I am generally consistently straight and fairly long off the tee.
Depends on the time of yars and type of comp of year as to the tees. At the moment monthly medals and stablefords and board events are off the whites. Midweek stableford and medal and seniors midweek version all off the yellows
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Interesting. I’ve just been through the par 4/5 tee shots for home club in my head and there’s only one hole that would play like the ones you face (short par 4 that brings bunkers into play from forward tee)
All the others its either the hazards are out of range from either tee, in range from either tee or a different hazard is faced from each tee. So the challenge/penalty off each tee shot is pretty much the same and makes it a no-brainer to lessen the course distance and lose a couple of shots (if I had the choice)
(sorry for the off topic but interested to find out)
This with knobs on. There is around a 400yd difference between yellows and whites at my place. I get 3 shots more off the whites but I'd agree that the real world difference for me is 6-8 as well. If I was a bomber then the difference would be less but as a shorter hitter that difference is huge. I'll take the yellows every time and you can keep your 3 shots.
KenL
Tour Rookie
Not at my club, just the overall winner of the comp. There are different categories for sweep prizes.
We use to do that but stopped it on cost grounds
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
Our competition winnings go into the pro shop and any I get pay for me entering more competitions
We can only use our pro shop account for buying things in there. We cannot even use it to buy range cards although they are sold in there.
Many years ago half the money use to go to the proshop and half to the bar. I have tried to get it back without success.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes I guess it’s course dependant.
A lot of our bunkers are 240/250 off the tee I can’t reach off the white
But they are 215/ 230 off yellow right in my wheelhouse.
WorldHandicapSystem
Active member
Being forced to pay to play in a comp to get a decent weekend tee time every week feels like extortion to me. Fair enough when there is a major comp on but I wouldn’t play anywhere that enforced it every week.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
I don't think about "getting shots" on the course for the different tees.
I play a course off scratch and achieve a score differential. My handicap is only relevant to the other players' handicaps and gives me a finishing position.
Par 70.
Whites 78/6.2, 77/5.3, 76/4.5
Yellows 76/6.1, 75/5.2 74/4.4 etc.
These are the same no matter what my handicap is or how many "shots I'm getting".
At the moment my 8th best is 5.3. Beating that by 0.1 makes no difference.
Tomorrow I have a choice of the white tee medal or the yellow tee stableford.
I find 76 off the whites easier to achieve than 74 off the yellows.
This was true before CR-Par and remains true today.
I'm expecting much scorn to be coming my way, because I've said all this before.
It is true though.
I play a course off scratch and achieve a score differential. My handicap is only relevant to the other players' handicaps and gives me a finishing position.
Par 70.
Whites 78/6.2, 77/5.3, 76/4.5
Yellows 76/6.1, 75/5.2 74/4.4 etc.
These are the same no matter what my handicap is or how many "shots I'm getting".
At the moment my 8th best is 5.3. Beating that by 0.1 makes no difference.
Tomorrow I have a choice of the white tee medal or the yellow tee stableford.
I find 76 off the whites easier to achieve than 74 off the yellows.
This was true before CR-Par and remains true today.
I'm expecting much scorn to be coming my way, because I've said all this before.
It is true though.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Because Course Rating (and Slope) are based on a "model player" an individual player may be affected in a different way to another player with the same Index. And some players will find tees that are easier or more difficult than the CR suggests.
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