Attending the Pin

[FairwayDodger]

OK, so after looking up the rules for an earlier thread I've just been re-reading them and have got myself all confused again....

17-1 - Flagstick Attended, Removed or Held Up

Before making a stroke from anywhere on the course, the player may have the flagstick attended, removed or held up to indicate the position of the hole.
If the flagstick is not attended, removed or held up before the player makes a stroke, it must not be attended, removed or held up during the stroke or while the player’s ball is in motion if doing so might influence the movement of the ball.

So you can get the flag attended even if you're off the green?

I always thought if you were off the green you had to choose whether to have the flag in or out but this rule and the FAQs suggest otherwise.

Can anyone clarify?

 

[rosecott]

So you can get the flag attended even if you're off the green?
Can anyone clarify?

Yes, if you are off the green you can opt to have the flag attended just as you could if you were on the green.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Yes, if you are off the green you can opt to have the flag attended just as you could if you were on the green.

Wow! I've never done that and never seen anyone else do it. Has this always been the rule or did it change?

 

[pbrown7582]

Always been the rule,

 

[Slime]

Check this out.

http://youtu.be/aqKweki8Sxc

 

[FairwayDodger]

Check this out.

http://youtu.be/aqKweki8Sxc

Great stuff Slime, cheers! Not that I didn't believe rosecott and pbrown of course! :thup:

 

[Piece]

On these driveable par 4s, you should ask your partner to leggit to the green and tend the flag!

 

[williamalex1]

if the pin is being tended it must be removed before the ball reaches it , if ball hits pin when it is tended ,whether playing from off green or on, its a penalty

 

[Region3]

On these driveable par 4s, you should ask your partner to leggit to the green and tend the flag!

Especially if it's your honour!

 

[duncan mackie]

On these driveable par 4s, you should ask your partner to leggit to the green and tend the flag!

as your partner I would politely decline and quote 17-1/2

 

[beggsy]

Let's say my partner is off the green with a dodgy lie asks me to tend flag he hits a poor shot the ball was going to end up 30ft away but hits me and drops to 2ft he holes the putt and we win the match

 

[FairwayDodger]

Let's say my partner is off the green with a dodgy lie asks me to tend flag he hits a poor shot the ball was going to end up 30ft away but hits me and drops to 2ft he holes the putt and we win the match

Breech of rule 17-3, you lose the hole.

 

[bobmac]

if the pin is being tended it must be removed before the ball reaches it , if ball hits pin when it is tended ,whether playing from off green or on, its a penalty

There are exceptions when the person doing the tending will get penalised though

 

[Scouser]

if the pin is being tended it must be removed before the ball reaches it , if ball hits pin when it is tended ,whether playing from off green or on, its a penalty

Whats the reason for having it tended?

 

[FairwayDodger]

Whats the reason for having it tended?

If you need the pin in to see where the hole is but the ball has more chance of dropping if the pin is out.

 

[Scouser]

If you need the pin in to see where the hole is but the ball has more chance of dropping if the pin is out.

Thanks FD....I had misread his post ...its been a long day

 

[beggsy]

Why should he be penalised for something accidental

 

[williamalex1]

its your choice if you want the pin tended or not. when playing from off the green, but if tended it must be removed before the ball hits it , onced tended it must be removed

 

[Foxholer]

Always been the rule,

Specified from 1952. Implied (but not being excluded) before that.

Why should he be penalised for something accidental

Same reason you are penalised if you accidentally move the ball while clearing moveable obstructions.

 

[MashieNiblick]

Same reason you are penalised if you accidentally move the ball while clearing moveable obstructions.

No penalty for that.

Rules 18-2(a) and 24-1(a)

I think you probably meant loose impediments rather than moveable obstructions. Although there are also exceptions to that as well (e.g. when the ball is on the green)