Aston Villa

Canary_Yellow said:
If I were a Villa fan, I'd be worried about next season.

Sherwood has demonstrated his short term motivational skills, but Paolo Di Canio, Glenn Roeder and Roy Keane have all demonstrated theirs too.

Losing 6-1 a Southampton and at home to Burnley is a bad omen.

Of course Sherwood may turn out to be a great success, but he is inexperienced, particularly when it comes to recruitment. There's a lot of water to pass under the bridge before Sherwood can be lauded as a great manager (not that there is anything to say he won't be).
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For the first time in the last 4/5 seasons , I am genuinely not concerned about next season .

I don't expect much , but I also don't believe we will be fighting for survival come May . This may change if we did lose the likes of benteke and cleverley .... However as it stands the squad we have has a lot more potential than shown this year.

I think the southampton and burnley games are write offs to be honest . Although we lost to burnley on another day we could of put 3 or 4 past them . I think we will be up for Saturday and definatley wouldn't write us off like most people did against Liverpool !
 
I hope Villa win on Saturday. Far more interesting for them to win than Arsenal. Might persuade some other middle table teams to actually try and win a trophy next year instead of just aiming for PL water treading.

I can not see Benteke staying in any way, shape or form. If you were him or his agent would you advise him to stay? I don't see him as a top 3 club player yet but those in the tier below, Liverpool, Tottenham for example, should go after him like a shot and it would be a great step up for him. Two years at one of those teams and if he continues to progress then he will be a top 3 club player. Get the cup final out of the way, hopefully win it, and then make sure you get a whopping fee for him and buy 3 decent players with the money.

Villa are so far away from being a top 6/7 team that it is unrealistic to expect to keep a goal scoring asset like Benteke.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I hope Villa win on Saturday. Far more interesting for them to win than Arsenal. Might persuade some other middle table teams to actually try and win a trophy next year instead of just aiming for PL water treading.

I can not see Benteke staying in any way, shape or form. If you were him or his agent would you advise him to stay? I don't see him as a top 3 club player yet but those in the tier below, Liverpool, Tottenham for example, should go after him like a shot and it would be a great step up for him. Two years at one of those teams and if he continues to progress then he will be a top 3 club player. Get the cup final out of the way, hopefully win it, and then make sure you get a whopping fee for him and buy 3 decent players with the money.

Villa are so far away from being a top 6/7 team that it is unrealistic to expect to keep a goal scoring asset like Benteke.
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I'd have him like a shot.

Offers himself as a target man and a beast in the box, but can also play on the shoulder of the last defender so good on the floor as well.
 
Seems an obvious fit at Liverpool. You have creativity but no presence up top. Rogers clearly doesn't like the 3 strikers he bought (???) so I imagine they will all be moved on this summer. Benteke as a starting point would be a great first move. Assuming you get the loanee from Lille back across then you have those two plus Sturridge when fit. Life suddenly looks a little better. Villa can benefit from a big intake of cash that Sherwood can then use to strengthen the team.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Seems an obvious fit at Liverpool. You have creativity but no presence up top. Rogers clearly doesn't like the 3 strikers he bought (???) so I imagine they will all be moved on this summer. Benteke as a starting point would be a great first move. Assuming you get the loanee from Lille back across then you have those two plus Sturridge when fit. Life suddenly looks a little better. Villa can benefit from a big intake of cash that Sherwood can then use to strengthen the team.
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Didn't the loanee from Lille make it into the worst team of the year in France? :D
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I hope Villa win on Saturday. Far more interesting for them to win than Arsenal. Might persuade some other middle table teams to actually try and win a trophy next year instead of just aiming for PL water treading.

I can not see Benteke staying in any way, shape or form. If you were him or his agent would you advise him to stay? I don't see him as a top 3 club player yet but those in the tier below, Liverpool, Tottenham for example, should go after him like a shot and it would be a great step up for him. Two years at one of those teams and if he continues to progress then he will be a top 3 club player. Get the cup final out of the way, hopefully win it, and then make sure you get a whopping fee for him and buy 3 decent players with the money.

Villa are so far away from being a top 6/7 team that it is unrealistic to expect to keep a goal scoring asset like Benteke.
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I am not sure that any team could afford benteke at the moment . Sherwood will value him at a stupid amount and I'm sure there was something put in his contract to stop him from talking to other clubs ..... Or maybe I just dreamt that!

I personally think he will stay unless some club offers a ridiculous amount ....
 
MetalMickie said:
Not if, like me, you're a Bluenose.

Recent years have been more of a nightmare than a dream. (But still I keep going. Barmy or what??)
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League 1 was the best thing that ever happened to us, got rid of a lot of the bad eggs in the dressing room and the away days were fantastic.

It helps that we're financially sound, not sure your lot would've coped had Rowett not sorted you out
 
Hobbit said:
Excellent post, and it highlights the fact that its is your own expectation that sets the benchmark of a good or bad season. If the mighty Boro had won on Monday I'd have been over the moon, and if they'd finished 10th or better in the PL next season I'd have been happy. And being in the PL means you also attract better players, which can mean better entertainment, and you get to see better teams coming to your ground = better entertainment.

If Boro go up at the end of next season, fantastic! But will they win as many the season after promotion, or will they be looking at the trapdoor below them? I'd take the promotion every time, and then hope for top 10 or above.
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Totally agree, a very good friend is a season ticket holder at Hull, has been for over 30 years and follows them home and away and he honestly says it is always much more exciting in the Championship, especially away games, travelling away to Premiership grounds and hoping you win but expecting to lose week after week is miserable, whereas in the Championship, every away game is/was an adventure.
 
Canary_Yellow said:
If I were a Villa fan, I'd be worried about next season.

Sherwood has demonstrated his short term motivational skills, but Paolo Di Canio, Glenn Roeder and Roy Keane have all demonstrated theirs too.

Losing 6-1 a Southampton and at home to Burnley is a bad omen.

Of course Sherwood may turn out to be a great success, but he is inexperienced, particularly when it comes to recruitment. There's a lot of water to pass under the bridge before Sherwood can be lauded as a great manager (not that there is anything to say he won't be).
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Don't rate Sherwood, his biggest fan is himself!
 
I think Villa will give Arsenal a good game at the weekend but if I'm honest I can't see them creating enough to win and worry about their defence. I'm having a punt on 2-0 Arsenal. Shame because you look back at the Villa sides I grew up with in the 70's and they were right up there as the best in the land. Think those days will be a while coming back
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Imagine going on holiday abroad and having such a lovely time that you need to post about Liverpool :rolleyes:
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I'm amazed that a football thread lasted 7 pages without a dig at Liverpool that was totally irrelevant to the thread!!
 
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