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guest100718
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18 Billion Dollars profit in a quarter! Thats a lot of iPhones... I don't personally get the attraction of apple, The first Iphone was innovative but now you are just paying twice as much as nothing extra.
Rooter
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Assume you were listening to radio2 also, allegedly they have enough cash reserves to sort the education and NHS sectors out. Something like 180Bn in cash reserves!!
Apple marketing dept have to take the lions share of the credit in creating the demand, you are right Paddy, there are technically better products on the market for sure!
Apple marketing dept have to take the lions share of the credit in creating the demand, you are right Paddy, there are technically better products on the market for sure!
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Snelly
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Having had a Macbook Pro since December, I would argue that there aren't technically better products available. It is absolutely fantastic and I cannot see me going back to a PC in the near future. Most PC websites and magazines agree that it is the most capable laptop available today.
My iPhone 6 is also a brilliant product and the integration of it, my iPad and Macbook is very clever indeed.
73% of enterprise smartphone activations in September were iPhones, mirrored by a quarterly total of 70% (I know this as I am currently writing a report on the subject for work reasons!) You don't get that kind of market share if there are alternatives that are technically better products. Market forces don't lie.
It is easy to knock Apple but they do make some fantastic, if expensive, technology.
My iPhone 6 is also a brilliant product and the integration of it, my iPad and Macbook is very clever indeed.
73% of enterprise smartphone activations in September were iPhones, mirrored by a quarterly total of 70% (I know this as I am currently writing a report on the subject for work reasons!) You don't get that kind of market share if there are alternatives that are technically better products. Market forces don't lie.
It is easy to knock Apple but they do make some fantastic, if expensive, technology.
davemc1
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You'd think with all that cash in reserve they could manufacture a decent charger. I had about 3 broke in the past 12 months.
The things the iPad can do are great though, shame I only know because the little one shows me...
The things the iPad can do are great though, shame I only know because the little one shows me...
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guest100718
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No doubting it's good or that its very overpriced.
From my own perspective, apple doesn't offer me anything that I cant get at half the price somewhere else.
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guest100718
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You mean like join the rest of the world and use USB.....
garyinderry
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I pads are rubbish compared to Microsoft surface tablets. Screen resolution is miles better. Little kickstand is perfect and full usb connectivity and no silly iTunes.
pokerjoke
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Fair play to a company that can produce such amazing profits in a saturated market.
Their marketing team must be on some bonus package.
Their marketing team must be on some bonus package.
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guest100718
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The sales director got 73 Million
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c1973
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With that kind of cash available I would imagine a healthy chunk would go to R&D, if so you'd think a half decent battery would be a priority!
bluewolf
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I've been using the iPhone since the first version 3 came out. Its user interface was miles ahead of anything else at the time. I now have the 6+ and I love it. I bought a Bose docking station for it. My Sonos works from it. It syncs with my Macbook, and the wife's iPad.
The new Firewire connector has caused me some issues with compatability, but not nearly as much as I would have had if I'd gone Android.. I'm almost a trapped consumer now.. If I change my phone, I'll have to change several other pieces of hardware.. Fortunately I'm happy enough with the Apple...
The new Firewire connector has caused me some issues with compatability, but not nearly as much as I would have had if I'd gone Android.. I'm almost a trapped consumer now.. If I change my phone, I'll have to change several other pieces of hardware.. Fortunately I'm happy enough with the Apple...
One Planer
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I'll admit to moving away from Apple to Samsung for my latest upgrade (Phone).
I wanted a larger screen and phone so it was a straight shoot out between the 6+ and the Galaxy Note 4.
The Note 4 beats the 6+ hands down.
Faster processor
Higher resolution screen
4k video
Expandable memory
Removable and replaceable battery
The 'S pen' that is excellent
'Ok Google' Which makes Siri look like something from 1984
16MP Camera
Fast Charge (1hr 35 minutes from flat to full)
There are more, but the absolute best is no iTunes :thup:
I wanted a larger screen and phone so it was a straight shoot out between the 6+ and the Galaxy Note 4.
The Note 4 beats the 6+ hands down.
Faster processor
Higher resolution screen
4k video
Expandable memory
Removable and replaceable battery
The 'S pen' that is excellent
'Ok Google' Which makes Siri look like something from 1984
16MP Camera
Fast Charge (1hr 35 minutes from flat to full)
There are more, but the absolute best is no iTunes :thup:
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Likewise, 3 iphones, 3 ipads and a macbook, I think i may also be trapped in.
For me the OS on the iphone is far more user friendly than android and gets better every release. I get that many android phones have better cameras (i have a camera) have faster processors (android system tends to be processor heavy im told) and you don't need itunes (I havent used itunes in years now) and most phones are cheaper (and feel cheaper too so need upgraded quicker), so the iphone does everything i need.
I'm a fan as i like their products but im not in the "must have the current model" mould. I'll only upgrade when i need to (currently on iphone 5 and ipad2).
bluewolf
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As a slightly "techy geek" myself, I do fully understand all that, but the sheer ease of use of the Apple user interface takes some beating. Most people can take it straight out of the box and be using it without any need for an instruction book. The rest of that list will be completely irrelevant to most smart phone users..
In all honesty, I never use Siri, the screen resolution is fantastic, the video software/hardware (inc the fantastic slo mo option) is great and the phone charges overnight whilst I'm sleeping.. I'm really happy with it and I'm probably the least "corporate fanboy" person around..
With regards to iTunes, I don't really have as much of an issue with it as most do. Maybe I'm easily pleased..
One Planer
Global Moderator
As a slightly "techy geek" myself, I do fully understand all that, but the sheer ease of use of the Apple user interface takes some beating. Most people can take it straight out of the box and be using it without any need for an instruction book. The rest of that list will be completely irrelevant to most smart phone users..
In all honesty, I never use Siri, the screen resolution is fantastic, the video software/hardware (inc the fantastic slo mo option) is great and the phone charges overnight whilst I'm sleeping.. I'm really happy with it and I'm probably the least "corporate fanboy" person around..
With regards to iTunes, I don't really have as much of an issue with it as most do. Maybe I'm easily pleased..
Android OS is no more difficult to use the IOS.
I'll admit it took a little getting used to after a few years on IOS, the other than the initial bedding in, straight forward and easy to use.
Android is also much more customisable than IOS.
With IOS you're stuck with the same, app filled screens, with no variation.
The on screen widgets of Android allow me to have a social networking page, email, calendar and much more.
I can have the screen shot gun with apps if I like, similar to the IOS look, however I have the choice to set it as I please.
It's very much horses for courses but, after experiencing Android, and what it has to offer, Apple is quite simply over-priced and, if I'm honest, behind the cutting edge where it used to be in-front.
bluewolf
Money List Winner
And yet it is still far far ahead with regards to sheer volume of units sold.. Apple appear to have recognised that a phone can have every bell and whistle on the market, but if there isn't a "buzz" behind it then it won't compete.. Every generation has had this fight.
Betamax vs VHS
Internet Explorer vs Every other browser
Laser Disk vs DVD
At the end of the day, it's not the best technology that wins, but usually the best 3rd party support. VHS won because they monopolised the Video rental market. IE Won because Microsoft monopolised the OS market, DVD won for similar reasons to Video.. We will have to wait and see whether Apple can fight off Samsung, but I suspect that the battle will be won by the company which best utilises the 3rd party hardware market..
One Planer
Global Moderator
I agree with pretty much all of that :thup:
Apple has always marketed itself, and been considered, as a premium brand and has always been the expensive option.
Each brand, like golf, will have their die-hard followers who claim the benefits out weight the negatives.
The simple fact is, it's a matter of preference and choice.
If you look at market share based on OS, Android is clearly ahead.
http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp
It's the same when you look at manufacture market share:
http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-market-share.jsp
Perhaps Apple is losing a little of it's premium sheen?
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I'm not a fan of the iPhones though I think there's no better laptop than a MacBook.
The only down side to iTunes is you have to pay for everything you download.
On the iPhone charger issue ( my tart has on) they are pretty rubbish.
The only down side to iTunes is you have to pay for everything you download.
On the iPhone charger issue ( my tart has on) they are pretty rubbish.
Piece
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A fair change from the days in the mid 1980s when Apple's shareprice was as low as it could go (<0.5 v 118 today). I had a chance to buy shares in those days but declined as I thought they would go bust!
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Snelly
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That is global market share, including all the markets where an Apple price is far too high. The market share in the UK was 70% last quarter.
