Old Skier
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The point was, as I read post 13 was he was given a reduction hence my suggestion that other comps were taken into account.
Annual handicap review
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The point was, as I read post 13 was he was given a reduction hence my suggestion that other comps were taken into account.
D
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But the post was talking about the computer suggesting the reduction ( hence the -3.63 against handicap) . So how can other comps be taken into consideration
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Old Skier
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Im not sure that the post does say that just that he had a reduction however not knowing what his full record was for the year the report may indeed recommend a cut based on later results.
chellie
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Out of interest is there a maximum cut you can have in an AR.
One Planer
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I think something has gotten lost in translation. Probably the way I posted
In post 13. The chap started the season on 27.0. He finished the season on 27.4 yet had a performance against handicap of -3.63 to which the A/R suggests a 1 shot reduction.
That's what got me confused.
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I think something has gotten lost in translation. Probably the way I posted
In post 13. The chap started the season on 27.0. He finished the season on 27.4 yet had a performance against handicap of -3.63 to which the A/R suggests a 1 shot reduction.
That's what got me confused.
And where has that performance been judged against ?
Is it the computer suggesting a reduction ?
Has he played below his handicap a lot but standard scratch has been low ?
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One Planer
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I have no idea to most of those questions I'm afraid.
All I saw was the computer print out suggesting a 1 shot reduction.
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Alan P Mills
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Gareth,
it's a bit of a read but this link may help you.
http://www.hayloftgolf.org.uk/AHR.pdf
it explains why a high handicapper (20+) can score worse than his buffer zone and still get cut.
it's a bit of a read but this link may help you.
http://www.hayloftgolf.org.uk/AHR.pdf
it explains why a high handicapper (20+) can score worse than his buffer zone and still get cut.
One Planer
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Yes LP. One shot lower.
D
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The possibly he has played one below his handicap a lot of times -enough to flag up a one shot reduction
One Planer
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Would he not then have, effectively, played to buffer?
D
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Yes but below his handicap in the buffer as opposed to over it
One Planer
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Gotcha :thup:
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Im sitting in on an AR in the new year so hopefully I might be able to get a better insight
One Planer
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If you do it would be nice if you were to share your experiences :thup:
There seems to be a general confusion about them, especially on my part
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If you do it would be nice if you were to share your experiences :thup:
There seems to be a general confusion about them, especially on my part
You're nt the only one - it confuses me as well.
pbrown7582
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Unfortunate you missed out Gareth iirc when foxy (I think) did the math on another recent thread your ratio was marginal so was always a bit touch and go under those circumstances I can understand under disappointment and got to be worth a question to the HS
rosecott
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I was rather surprised at some of the reaction to Gareth’s post – he was only posing a question, not demanding a cut. What a lot of posters failed to take into account when saying he shouldn’t expect to be cut more than was produced by his “better than CSS†performances is the way the system is designed to work.
In the June Medal he played off 16, played to 13 and was cut to 15
In the July Medal he played off 15, played to 12 and was cut to 14
In the September Stableford he played off 14, played to 13 and stayed at 14
So, on those 3 occasions he played to 13 twice, 12 once and his handicap reduced to 14 so he demonstrated his ability to play to 12 or 13. The Annual Review is designed to take those performances into account together with the occasions when he either made buffer or failed to make buffer and any other factors such as matchplay performances. The AR will take an overall view of whether his current handicap is as realistic and accurate as it should be. I agree with other stated opinions that it is probably marginal as to whether a further reduction is necessary but Gareth is only asking the question and the AR will be asking the same question.
In the June Medal he played off 16, played to 13 and was cut to 15
In the July Medal he played off 15, played to 12 and was cut to 14
In the September Stableford he played off 14, played to 13 and stayed at 14
So, on those 3 occasions he played to 13 twice, 12 once and his handicap reduced to 14 so he demonstrated his ability to play to 12 or 13. The Annual Review is designed to take those performances into account together with the occasions when he either made buffer or failed to make buffer and any other factors such as matchplay performances. The AR will take an overall view of whether his current handicap is as realistic and accurate as it should be. I agree with other stated opinions that it is probably marginal as to whether a further reduction is necessary but Gareth is only asking the question and the AR will be asking the same question.
