And, we're off.....2016/17

[Deleted member 15344]

Utd should be worrying about staying in the top 10, or looking further down. They were rubbish. Everton were Everton. Disappointing but it is beginning to look like the new manager is dealing with the dross that the previous manager had to deal with.

They have spent £400mil ( not including the Ibrahimovic sign on ) in the past three seasons ( since summer 2014 ) - and it's hard to see where the quality is beyond the GK

 

[Hobbit]

Can you see them keeping De Gea with yet another season of no CL ahead?

 

[Fish]

Yeah because those 2 points are going to make all the difference with 5 months of the season to go ?!

Still no definites in early December.

There a clear 9 points away from 4th now you knob, the 2 points dropped today just supports the fact that those above them are more consistent, your opinion is worth squat now anyway with your latest drivel.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Can you see them keeping De Gea with yet another season of no CL ahead?

Fully expect him to go this summer - would think to Madrid but would be interesting to see if City went for him

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Wow, What a day for comebacks. Watched AFC Wimbledon get out of jail in the cup but usurped in grand fashion by Liverpool. Saw the first two goals, both taken and thought they'd win with ease. Even when they got back to 3-1 up it looked a certain three points. What a fightback from Bournemouth and I still maintain that Liverpool need a real top class keeper and don't think Karius is it

Some very poor tackles in the Everton v United game that I thought were red cards. What was Fellaini doing? I think he's an accident waiting to happen most games and don't rate him at all

 

[Fish]

Can you see them keeping De Gea with yet another season of no CL ahead?

No, clubs will be queuing up to prise him away from an average team at best.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Yeah because those 2 points are going to make all the difference with 5 months of the season to go ?!

Still no definites in early December.

Have to agree with Fish I'm afraid. United aren't good enough at this time and you can't see them going on any sort of winning run to close the gap and squeeze into fourth

 

[Fish]

Have to agree with Fish I'm afraid. United aren't good enough at this time and you can't see them going on any sort of winning run to close the gap and squeeze into fourth

It's not just a case of the them or anyone going on a run of form, it's the expectancy of teams already above them going into reverse over the same amount of matches, it ain't gonna happen!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

It's not just a case of the them or anyone going on a run of form, it's the expectancy of teams already above them going into reverse over the same amount of matches, it ain't gonna happen!

Surely it's going to need both. United need to win, and win often and the top four need to drop points often. As you say, won't happen

 

[Deleted member 16999]

They have spent £400mil ( not including the Ibrahimovic sign on ) in the past three seasons ( since summer 2014 ) - and it's hard to see where the quality is beyond the GK

Jose has been in post 4 months and has to be given time. The players he's signed are a different class to what was bought before him, is it fair to bring Rodgers signings in to a discussion about Klopp or Martinez's for Koeman.

 

[Hobbit]

Surely it's going to need both. United need to win, and win often and the top four need to drop points often. As you say, won't happen

You might get one or two teams having a dodgy patch, probably Arsenal, but the only gives Utd an opportunity to catch them. Just can't see that AND Utd improving.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

You might get one or two teams having a dodgy patch, probably Arsenal, but the only gives Utd an opportunity to catch them. Just can't see that AND Utd improving.

A case could be made for every one of the top four having a poor second half of the season. At least two have suspect defences and dodgy keepers, all are heavily reliant upon one or two key players and, therefore, injuries could be an issue. Some have disciplinary worries.

However, it is hard to see more than one imploding.

Hang about; what happened last year? Lightning couldn't strike twice, could it?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Jose has been in post 4 months and has to be given time. The players he's signed are a different class to what was bought before him, is it fair to bring Rodgers signings in to a discussion about Klopp or Martinez's for Koeman.

Will Jose get too much time. I can see him getting the summer to get rid of the rubbish and get in those he wants, but if in twelve months time United are still out of the top four and so far adrift will he be given more time after that? To me he seems to have been found out tactically but is that down to the team he's able to put out

 

[anotherdouble]

I think this is their limit. They will win some but never get into the top 4 with this squad

 

[MegaSteve]

For me, Pogba hasn't looked anywhere near being an £80M player...

 

[sawtooth]

For me, Pogba hasn't looked anywhere near being an £80M player...

You have to give him a bit of time, I remember people saying Ozil didn't look a £42M player when he came to Arsenal. He's worth probably more now.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

For me, Pogba hasn't looked anywhere near being an £80M player...

Hasn't looked an £8M player so far. Very disappointing

 

[Kellfire]

Statistically Pogba is United's most influential player this season.

 

[USER1999]

You might get one or two teams having a dodgy patch, probably Arsenal, but the only gives Utd an opportunity to catch them. Just can't see that AND Utd improving.

Um, we are looking better. Just need to look after sanchez, and tie his contract down, along with ozil, get a couple of players back, and we are bolted on fourth place. Sorted.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Any contact could in theory cause an injury even non contact can may footballers hurt themselves going over on their ankles without any contact but in terms of career threatening injuries. Aguero's tackle was highly unlikely to cause it.

As for the Red challenge of course there are degrees of violence and Aguero's was at a pretty low end of it and it was whilst Reid was trying to stop him from playing. Red Card offence? yes Nasty , well only if you think that any physical contact in a contact sport is intrinsically nasty.

Do you think Aguero should only get the standard 3 match ban, for that tackle?

That tackle at least deserves another 1 game, minimum, otherwise there is no deterrent. Sometimes you have to punish for the intent of a tackle, rather than the result of it.