Aimpoint is slow - FACT

[HawkeyeMS]

You don't need all these charts and stuff like that to read greens though?

To be fair I have read a bit of the information and it is very in depth for such a simple task imo. I think they are making money out of overcomplicating something.

I can understand people doing it though if they are desperate to improve putting and have tried everything else.

I agree, I don't think you do, but then I am generally quite good at reading greens. If you aren't however, the charts may help. Each to their own and all that

 

[pokerjoke]

I can honestly say that I would never use Aimpoint even if it gave a huge advantage.

Reading greens is a skill Thats learned over years of playing the game and its a skill that it I take great pleasure from when I get it right. Why would I want to lose that pleasure which is gained from a large part of the game.

Are your scores/handicap really that important that you feel the need to take away the pleasure gained from reading a putt correctly and then holing it?

I get my kicks from this game via the Skill & judgement Thats required. Take that away from me and the game starts to become dull.

I would be interested if you use a DMD at all.?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Aimpoint wouldn't be much good for me since after about 9 hols my feet and legs start to ache and by the time I'm playing the last few holes I'm hobbling.

Besides - if you have to stand astride the line of putt what happens when you would stand on a PPs line. You are scuppered.

 

[c1973]

Whilst I have no interest in the argument, I should point out that one of Stacy's sponsors is Aimpoint.. Along with La Croix mineral water... It seems to me that using Stacy as an example might be a bit dangerous, considering she is obviously paid to promote Aimpoint.. Unless you think that La Croix mineral water is also the best.. Because, you know, Stacy drinks it...

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Extremely good point.

I asked the question if Adam Scott was sponsored by them, never realised that the Aimpointers poster girl was.

 

[davidy233]

I've not tried Aimpoint and have no interest in trying it - but to complain and troll threads about it primarily because they are charging for teaching it is nonsense - they put it together - it's a product and their source of income, good luck to them.

 

[Qwerty]

I would be interested if you use a DMD at all.?

I had a feeling I'd get asked this question I was going to mention DMDs in the original post but thought I'd take a chance and leave it out.

I do use one and wouldn't blame you if called me a hypocrite. I do think its 2 different arguments though. Distance is an exact science, you've also always got 150 markers to read from and some courses have yardages in the sprinkler heads. Even when you have the yardage Theres still the skill involved in judging the wind and elevation changes, which there are a lot of at the courses i play, id imagine Ilfracombe is similar.
Saying all this though if it was up to me I would Ban DMDs.

It seems the aim of aimpoint is to make putting into an exact science and I just don't think its possible as There's too many variables.
To bolster my reasoning though, in my opinion Theres far more skill involved and enjoyment derived in reading a break correctly and holing a putt than there is from judging a yardage. Its a huge part of the game IMO and I honestly wouldn't want any help with it.

 

[garyinderry]

do you have to factor in the howling wind when using aimpoint?

 

[pokerjoke]

I had a feeling I'd get asked this question I was going to mention DMDs in the original post but thought I'd take a chance and leave it out.

I do use one and wouldn't blame you if called me a hypocrite. I do think its 2 different arguments though. Distance is an exact science, you've also always got 150 markers to read from and some courses have yardages in the sprinkler heads. Even when you have the yardage Theres still the skill involved in judging the wind and elevation changes, which there are a lot of at the courses i play, id imagine Ilfracombe is similar.
Saying all this though if it was up to me I would Ban DMDs.

It seems the aim of aimpoint is to make putting into an exact science and I just don't think its possible as There's too many variables.
To bolster my reasoning though, in my opinion Theres far more skill involved and enjoyment derived in reading a break correctly and holing a putt than there is from judging a yardage. Its a huge part of the game IMO and I honestly wouldn't want any help with it.

Mate I do see what your trying to say,however there are many variables on a shot from 150 yards.
If there were no 150 markers or yardages on sprinklers.
A dmd gives the user a massive advantage to someone who is guessing yardages.
This is an art and dmds have taken that away.
However im certainly not saying get rid of anything that can help make this game easier.
I just think your argument is flawed.
The thing is with all these gadgets and accessories they don't hit the shot,so imo get all
the help you can.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

do you have to factor in the howling wind when using aimpoint?

You certainly do on a links course! No doubt there is a sub section on the chart to cover wind speed and direction

 

[patricks148]

Ive never heard of Aimpoint untill today! i just had a look at the links on the other tread and it all sounds a bit complicated.

Will it make me a better putter?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Homer - you have paid for the full course and are able to get a refresher ? Do you then get the express version free or get it in your refresher ?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Extremely good point.

I asked the question if Adam Scott was sponsored by them, never realised that the Aimpointers poster girl was.

So maybe those pros that are using the method actually aren't - they know it's a load of tosh and are only pretending to use it.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I had a feeling I'd get asked this question I was going to mention DMDs in the original post but thought I'd take a chance and leave it out.

I do use one and wouldn't blame you if called me a hypocrite. I do think its 2 different arguments though. Distance is an exact science, you've also always got 150 markers to read from and some courses have yardages in the sprinkler heads. Even when you have the yardage Theres still the skill involved in judging the wind and elevation changes, which there are a lot of at the courses i play, id imagine Ilfracombe is similar.
Saying all this though if it was up to me I would Ban DMDs.

It seems the aim of aimpoint is to make putting into an exact science and I just don't think its possible as There's too many variables.
To bolster my reasoning though, in my opinion Theres far more skill involved and enjoyment derived in reading a break correctly and holing a putt than there is from judging a yardage. Its a huge part of the game IMO and I honestly wouldn't want any help with it.

:whoo::clap::thup:

Buit I say nothing...

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Will it make me a better putter?

What's wrong with the one you have? (SILH is currently sitting in pedants corner)

 

[c1973]

So maybe those pros that are using the method actually aren't - they know it's a load of tosh and are only pretending to use it.

I wouldn't know, but it would be bloody hilarious if they were pretending! I doubt they would 'pretend' though.

I am usually sceptical of someone advocating the use of anything if they are being paid by said product though. Does anyone know how many of the elite players do use Aimpoint?

 

[Imurg]

The slope of the green is gauged by standing near the line and "feeling" the slope in your feet - is that right..?
:f so, what happens if you have such a gentle slope that you can't feel it but you can see it...?
Or the first part of the putt is flat but the slopes up and flattens again - all with a left to right then right to left...?
Is Aimpoint able to deal with these.?
I guess you would have to read it in small chunks and do a quick calculation.....?

 

[Foxholer]

That said Aimpoint costs £90 and if I had spent £90 on putting lessons (£100 would get me 6 lessons with a 5 and 1 deal my pro is doing, so 3 hours with a pro pulling apart my technique and giving me tips) and only noticed a 10% difference (which is what your stats suggest), while also consciously knowing that my chipping had improved and was getting me closer to holes in the first place, I would be pretty annoyed at what I would consider to be a waste of money.

Er, umm....Have you considered applying that 'value for money justification' to normal lessons? Or a new Driver?

 

[3565]

This whole debate has turned into a playground farce. It's quite sad and tedious to read the same things repeatedly. For me, Aimpoint, not interested, that said, if someone wants to use it and it's within the rules, good luck to them. The constant criticism, sneering and badgering for evidence and proof that it works is so unbearably boring! You don't like it? MOVE ON!

As an Aimpoint user, I agree with you on this. I respect your view in not being interested in it, and I'm not here to convince you or any other either. I, as others, have tried to explain Aimpoint, and as we have done the course are in a better position to give a view point then those who haven't, I'm open to new ideas and concepts in this game and won't discount it on others sceptisium, I do my research on product/item and if I think I need some answers, I will ask those who have tried and liked and those who tried and disliked rather then the ones who just give their unfounded opinions because they think there entitled to post them.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

I can honestly say that I would never use Aimpoint even if it gave a huge advantage.

I really hope you don't use anything less than the bladiest, least forgiving clubs ever designed.

That follows your same logic. Hitting the perfect strike using those will be the best feeling ever, so why would you lose that pleasure by using easier clubs!

 

[Foxholer]

Will it make me a better putter?

Might do; might not; might even be detrimental.

Not a lot of difference to the questions and possible answers when considering whether to have lessons/change swing markedly, something you've been through recently.

It's roughly about the cost of a round on a 'posh' course (maybe different in your area) or a new wedge. Are they going to improve your game markedly? If Value for Money/Return on Investment was the sole measurement for golf purchases, several OEMs would be out of business pdq! And there would be only a few Pros who could survive!