2022 Professional golf thread

[Deleted member 15344]

Garbage on the first part, they hardly showed a shot in comparison to the rest, I had it on all day at work…

Sky might be a main broadcaster for the PGA and DPWT, but that doesn’t make it right.
They should be telling their paying customers what they plan to do and then let the customer decide if they want to keep on paying a subscription, it’s just not right and you know it as well but your being facetious for the sake of argument instead of looking at the bigger picture.

How did Rahm sum it up well?
He was for Westwood, Poulter, Garcia, Reed (to a point) teeing it up for everything they’ve done for the tour.
I sort of agree about Gooch as he’s never played before and probably wouldn’t of being on his radar in the past.

I’m pretty sure you must know by now that the coverage on Sky and also across the pond focus on “marquee groups” - the first two days of any coverage on all golf events i watch will mainly focus on those marquee groups and then pop to the odd great shot around the field - It was stated very early that none of the LiV players would be in any of the marque groups or featured groups.

And then for the weekend ( in this case Sunday
) it’s featured groups until the leaders go out and then they focus on those challenging, in the club we saw some shots from Reed and then the focus switched to Rahm , then it was Lowry and Rory because the winner was coming from one of those three - they then switch to Gooch as he played his second into 17 because he had the chance to match Rahm and also saw him play 18 and they then flipped back to Lowry and Rory

It’s coverage of the main ET event - they are going to focus on the players who are staying with the ET - they are going to clearly minimise the coverage of a bunch of golfers who have gone to court to play , have turned up wearing a rival tours branding over the clothing, it doesn’t take much to figure out that there coverage will be minimal - the CEO pretty much stated that at the start and of course Sky will follow that. Did you really think they would be showing much of the LIV guys outside any real challenge - it’s going to be the same as any future events they are able to enter.

 

[evemccc]

I’m pretty sure you must know by now that the coverage on Sky and also across the pond focus on “marquee groups” - the first two days of any coverage on all golf events i watch will mainly focus on those marquee groups and then pop to the odd great shot around the field - It was stated very early that none of the LiV players would be in any of the marque groups or featured groups.

And then for the weekend ( in this case Sunday
) it’s featured groups until the leaders go out and then they focus on those challenging, in the club we saw some shots from Reed and then the focus switched to Rahm , then it was Lowry and Rory because the winner was coming from one of those three - they then switch to Gooch as he played his second into 17 because he had the chance to match Rahm and also saw him play 18 and they then flipped back to Lowry and Rory

It’s coverage of the main ET event - they are going to focus on the players who are staying with the ET - they are going to clearly minimise the coverage of a bunch of golfers who have gone to court to play , have turned up wearing a rival tours branding over the clothing, it doesn’t take much to figure out that there coverage will be minimal - the CEO pretty much stated that at the start and of course Sky will follow that. Did you really think they would be showing much of the LIV guys outside any real challenge - it’s going to be the same as any future events they are able to enter.

Well I’m glad we’ve moved on from the moral arguments that some Sky presenters have used Vs LIV….and they and they supporters are now seeing it as their piece of the pie being threatened as broadcasters…This is clearly why so many in the golf industry with skin in the game are really against LIV..

I’d obvs have no issue with a moral stance from Sky if they HAD NOT shown and basically helped promote two Anthony Joshua fights from Saudi Arabia already, and barely mention anything about the dirty money in Prem League football (inc Newcastle)

It’s the lack of consistency and hypocrisy that sticks in the craw a bit

 

[Swango1980]

If anyone is offended or angry Sky didn't show their favourite golfers from LIV, then the answer is simple. Just cancel your Sky subscription. You can then stick to watching youTube.

Sky have absolutely every right to show exactly who they want. If they make a mistake, and offend enough people, they will lose customers. Simple really.

 

[BubbaP]

Think Soren Kjeldsen should have had more media attention - reckon he was the highest placed proper/regular DPWT player. Has benefited from the field strength though, jumping up 160+ places.
Thomas Detry could consider, although he spent the last 3 weeks trying to switch to the PGAT being his primary tour. (not judging)

 

[pokerjoke]

I’m pretty sure you must know by now that the coverage on Sky and also across the pond focus on “marquee groups” - the first two days of any coverage on all golf events i watch will mainly focus on those marquee groups and then pop to the odd great shot around the field - It was stated very early that none of the LiV players would be in any of the marque groups or featured groups.

And then for the weekend ( in this case Sunday
) it’s featured groups until the leaders go out and then they focus on those challenging, in the club we saw some shots from Reed and then the focus switched to Rahm , then it was Lowry and Rory because the winner was coming from one of those three - they then switch to Gooch as he played his second into 17 because he had the chance to match Rahm and also saw him play 18 and they then flipped back to Lowry and Rory

It’s coverage of the main ET event - they are going to focus on the players who are staying with the ET - they are going to clearly minimise the coverage of a bunch of golfers who have gone to court to play , have turned up wearing a rival tours branding over the clothing, it doesn’t take much to figure out that there coverage will be minimal - the CEO pretty much stated that at the start and of course Sky will follow that. Did you really think they would be showing much of the LIV guys outside any real challenge - it’s going to be the same as any future events they are able to enter.

 

[pokerjoke]

I wonder what would have happened if it was all Liv at the top fighting for the title.
I suppose they would have had to show their shots.
This was a Marquee event and surely they would have wanted to show case that.

 

[rksquire]

Delighted for Lowry, great win - I'm sure he's glad it ended after 54 holes and didn't have to see of the challenge of Rahm, Reed & co today. McIlroy went close, but a poor tee shot and a chip / pitch on 17th ultimately cost him. Some round by Rahm.

There is a case to answer though as to why Gooch in particular featured so little in the coverage, I understand the argument as to whether he should have been there or not, but having met the qualification criteria coupled with the fact he was in genuine contention at a point he should have featured (and it wasn't because of the featured group coverage, the main broadcast has ended that at that point). Reed, with a good round, did feature to some degree, albeit his round was underway during the featured group broadcast - at the point he was leading / about to take the lead with a great score going so it was impossible not to at least show a few of his shots. It can be dressed up either way with regard to the presence of the 'rebels', but with 14 of them making the cut and indeed being in the mix etc., my own personal takeaway is that these guys have something to offer in field strength to the DPWT. A good showing at the 'flagship' event (according to Laura D it's the next best thing to a Major!) shows that these guys aren't necessarily has-beens or washed up or lacking competitive spirit. Similarly, the dominance of the PGAT card holding guys at the top end is noteworthy.... great that they'll prop up the Italian Open as well, but it does expose the quality gap generally that exists.

 

[Sports_Fanatic]

Delighted for Lowry, great win - I'm sure he's glad it ended after 54 holes and didn't have to see of the challenge of Rahm, Reed & co today. McIlroy went close, but a poor tee shot and a chip / pitch on 17th ultimately cost him. Some round by Rahm.

There is a case to answer though as to why Gooch in particular featured so little in the coverage, I understand the argument as to whether he should have been there or not, but having met the qualification criteria coupled with the fact he was in genuine contention at a point he should have featured (and it wasn't because of the featured group coverage, the main broadcast has ended that at that point). Reed, with a good round, did feature to some degree, albeit his round was underway during the featured group broadcast - at the point he was leading / about to take the lead with a great score going so it was impossible not to at least show a few of his shots. It can be dressed up either way with regard to the presence of the 'rebels', but with 14 of them making the cut and indeed being in the mix etc., my own personal takeaway is that these guys have something to offer in field strength to the DPWT. A good showing at the 'flagship' event (according to Laura D it's the next best thing to a Major!) shows that these guys aren't necessarily has-beens or washed up or lacking competitive spirit. Similarly, the dominance of the PGAT card holding guys at the top end is noteworthy.... great that they'll prop up the Italian Open as well, but it does expose the quality gap generally that exists.

I'm not sure there was that strong a case to be showing Gooch, he made one birdie in 10 holes before his final eagle which they did show. He was never really in the mix pushing as Rahm had gone past, and it was quite clear it was going to be Rory or Shane. There broadcast of Hoveland dropped away once the bogeys happened and that's when less were on the course. I think people just find an angle when in fact it's hard to show all and keep a flow of the event i feel.

On them playing, no issue for those that supported the tour and no real issue for the others, but I wouldn't want them to receive invites once they lose ranking points. They either qualify by merit as a top 50 player or they have to do the same as those coming through whether for PGA, Euro or majors.

 

[BubbaP]

I'm not sure there was that strong a case to be showing Gooch, he made one birdie in 10 holes before his final eagle which they did show. He was never really in the mix pushing as Rahm had gone past, and it was quite clear it was going to be Rory or Shane. There broadcast of Hoveland dropped away once the bogeys happened and that's when less were on the course. I think people just find an angle when in fact it's hard to show all and keep a flow of the event i feel.

On them playing, no issue for those that supported the tour and no real issue for the others, but I wouldn't want them to receive invites once they lose ranking points. They either qualify by merit as a top 50 player or they have to do the same as those coming through whether for PGA, Euro or majors.

Just a minor point, they typically invite the top 60. Is how Rose & Kitayama qualified.
Like you, had no issue with players who qualified, playing.

 

[rksquire]

I'm not sure there was that strong a case to be showing Gooch, he made one birdie in 10 holes before his final eagle which they did show. He was never really in the mix pushing as Rahm had gone past, and it was quite clear it was going to be Rory or Shane. There broadcast of Hoveland dropped away once the bogeys happened and that's when less were on the course. I think people just find an angle when in fact it's hard to show all and keep a flow of the event i feel.

On them playing, no issue for those that supported the tour and no real issue for the others, but I wouldn't want them to receive invites once they lose ranking points. They either qualify by merit as a top 50 player or they have to do the same as those coming through whether for PGA, Euro or majors.

It was a live broadcast, he got to 13 under on the 12th, well within touching distance with 6 holes to go including 2 par 5s.... no crystal balls, but pretty sure they didn't know he wouldn't birdie or eagle until the 18th, so it was a conscious decision not to broadcast him live, in the same way it was a conscious decision not to show replays of him making pars. We got plenty of live shots of other players making par putts which were similarly pointless as it turns out. And we got loads of Molinari (relatively speaking for someone who wasn't McIlroy) who moved to 11 under at the 12th. Now I like Molinari and was happy to see him, and certainly have no love for Gooch, but there was certainly a conscious decision not to broadcast him 'live'.... he was inches from a birdie on 13 and 16 - as McIlroy knows - but for a few inches could have tied the leader.

 

[BubbaP]

Fair bit of choice this weekend.
A few big names in Italy on DPWT, although the field thins out quite quickly.
24 owgr points on offer for the winner.

Start of new 'season' on the PGAT. Oddly owgr still haven't listed the points on offer yet.

Then the 'naughty players' over in Chicago. Obviously no points on offer there currently.

 

[IanM]

Watching the golf from Italy.

That's not a golf course I'm overly bothered about jumping on a plane to play. I'm hoping it just looks dull on TV!

 

[Slab]

Watching the golf from Italy.

That's not a golf course I'm overly bothered about jumping on a plane to play. I'm hoping it just looks dull on TV!

Was just thinking the same
Lot for the tented village and grandstands to hide

 

[BubbaP]

Donald putting in an early shout for player-captain perhaps!
Tom Lewis back near the top of the leaderboard, seemed to struggle Stateside.

 

[BubbaP]

Fair bit of choice this weekend.
A few big names in Italy on DPWT, although the field thins out quite quickly.
24 owgr points on offer for the winner.

Start of new 'season' on the PGAT. Oddly owgr still haven't listed the points on offer yet.

Then the 'naughty players' over in Chicago. Obviously no points on offer there currently.

Finally owgr have updated.
Just over 40 points for the winner of Fortinet on PGAT this weekend.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

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[BubbaP]

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Could have shot traced the divot!

 

[BubbaP]

Fine margins - Willet only just kept his PGAT card a couple of weeks back, currently joint leader with a -8 knock today ?

 

[BubbaP]

Great ball striking / proximity to hole round from Johnson there

 

[Mel Smooth]

Great ball striking / proximity to hole round from Johnson there

He's playing some superb golf at the moment, not many mistakes in that round yesterday.