2019 Cricket

fundy said:
1st test at Edgbaston, for me I expect the side will be:

Roy
Burns
AN Other (probably Denly or Sibley, maybe Malan or Ballance)
Root
Stokes
Buttler
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Archer
Anderson

Broad, Wood, Curran, Leach all missing out

Personally would find a spot for Foakes, interesting to see hes batting 3 for the Lions today so maybe still an option with him keeping and Bairstow going back up to 3 and wouldnt be picking Ali either.

Strange to see us look to have plenty of bowling options and be desperately short of batting alternatives! Would love to see Roy do well but yesterday showed us what to expect if the ball swings about early on. Far too many of our side need to bat between 4 and 8!
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I suspect not far away with this line up.

My tuppence worth is since Roy does not bat in the top 3 in proper cricket he should not be batting higher that 5 in this team. Only setting him up to fail otherwise against a red Duke's ball and a good Aussie seam attack.

I think they may look at Vince again as opener. At some stage he must score runs as he always seems to make a start before the 'big drive' gets hime out. Other than that its pick a name out of a hat.

Root must bat at 3. He is the best player, captain and must take resposibility. Steve Smith will be fronting up at 3 for the Aussie's and Root must do the same for us. Hiding at 4 sends out the wrong message.

I think Archer plays at least to start as will Ali.

Both teams have gaping holes in them, who plugs them best wins the ashes for me.
 
Kellfire said:
Yea so by the laws of the game, it wasn’t a six. It was a five. So really we’ll never know what would have happened but we can make a guess based on the fact it would have left Rashid on strike.

A shame that England fans must always know they drew due to an umpire error. Fairly tarnishes the win. Oh well there’s always next time. :)
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Not like the Aussies to start whinging :ROFLMAO:
 
saving_par said:
I suspect not far away with this line up.

My tuppence worth is since Roy does not bat in the top 3 in proper cricket he should not be batting higher that 5 in this team. Only setting him up to fail otherwise against a red Duke's ball and a good Aussie seam attack.

I think they may look at Vince again as opener. At some stage he must score runs as he always seems to make a start before the 'big drive' gets hime out. Other than that its pick a name out of a hat.

Root must bat at 3. He is the best player, captain and must take resposibility. Steve Smith will be fronting up at 3 for the Aussie's and Root must do the same for us. Hiding at 4 sends out the wrong message.

I think Archer plays at least to start as will Ali.

Both teams have gaping holes in them, who plugs them best wins the ashes for me.
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I agree Roy should bat 5 or 6 in red ball cricket but the clamour will be for him to fill the obvious gap we have at the top of the order and to become the English Warner (without being a cheating arse obviously), that and theres quite a queue to bat in the middle order!

Be amazed to see Vince get another try especially having played very little cricket of late and barely got a run
 
Kellfire said:
It’s sad that many will say we should ignore the error that gifted England the draw just because it was pointed out by an Australian.
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The former umpire acknowledged the call "influenced the game", but said it should not be viewed as costing New Zealand the match - and the tournament.
"It's unfair on England, New Zealand and the umpires involved to say it decided the outcome," Taufel said.
 
fundy said:
1st test at Edgbaston, for me I expect the side will be:

Roy
Burns
AN Other (probably Denly or Sibley, maybe Malan or Ballance)
Root
Stokes
Buttler
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Archer
Anderson

Broad, Wood, Curran, Leach all missing out

Personally would find a spot for Foakes, interesting to see hes batting 3 for the Lions today so maybe still an option with him keeping and Bairstow going back up to 3 and wouldnt be picking Ali either.

Strange to see us look to have plenty of bowling options and be desperately short of batting alternatives! Would love to see Roy do well but yesterday showed us what to expect if the ball swings about early on. Far too many of our side need to bat between 4 and 8!
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Agree with your side. Denly, Sibley will likely get poisoned challace at 3.......Shame for Curran and Broad. Curran may still be given the nod over Woakes. It'll be interesting to see what happens if Simon Harmer ever qualifies for England (if he hasnt already ?). Him and Leach could be a formidable spin partnership in the sub-continent.
 
Kellfire said:
Yea so by the laws of the game, it wasn’t a six. It was a five. So really we’ll never know what would have happened but we can make a guess based on the fact it would have left Rashid on strike.

A shame that England fans must always know they drew due to an umpire error. Fairly tarnishes the win. Oh well there’s always next time. :)
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There are literally thousands of cases of referee/umpire error during every sport you can think of. You can moan and whinge about them afterwards, but it won't change the result.

And as you've said "we can make a guess" about what would have happened had the extra run not been given. But that's all it would ever be. A guess.

As I said earlier, true class from the Kiwis in defeat. Not demonstrated by other quarters, it seems.
 
Junior said:
Agree with your side. Denly, Sibley will likely get poisoned challace at 3.......Shame for Curran and Broad. Curran may still be given the nod over Woakes. It'll be interesting to see what happens if Simon Harmer ever qualifies for England (if he hasnt already ?). Him and Leach could be a formidable spin partnership in the sub-continent.
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Cant see anyway they leave Woakes out at Edgbaston personally, Curran not been pulling up any trees in the little cricket hes played, expect despite being a leftie hes quite a way down the queue again now

Harmer played for Saffers in tests didnt he, cant see him requalifying (leave him and Porter at Essex for the rest of this season at least plse!)
 
Kellfire said:
Yea so by the laws of the game, it wasn’t a six. It was a five. So really we’ll never know what would have happened but we can make a guess based on the fact it would have left Rashid on strike.

A shame that England fans must always know they drew due to an umpire error. Fairly tarnishes the win. Oh well there’s always next time. :)
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Right now the England fans don’t care , they saw their team lift the trophy and enjoyed the celebrations and will continue to do so.

Every sport will have an official error somewhere within the tournament where someone will benefit - that’s sport for you , it has human errors.

Normally pointed out by bitter people
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Right now the England fans don’t care , they saw their team lift the trophy and enjoyed the celebrations and will continue to do so.

Every sport will have an official error somewhere within the tournament where someone will benefit - that’s sport for you , it has human errors.

Normally pointed out by bitter people
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I hope you aren’t so blasé about golf rules. :(
 
Kellfire said:
I hope you aren’t so blasé about golf rules. :(
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😂 Seriously ?! 😂😂😂

Cricket is a sport that is “umpired” by two officials on the field plus a match referee and also a video referee - the umpires made the mistake

I have made a mistake before playing and ended up DQ myself because it’s a sport of self policing.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
😂 Seriously ?! 😂😂😂

Cricket is a sport that is “umpired” by two officials on the field plus a match referee and also a video referee - the umpires made the mistake

I have made a mistake before playing and ended up DQ myself because it’s a sport of self policing.
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I wonder why Stokes and Rashid didn’t tell the ref they hadn’t crossed?
 
Kellfire said:
I wonder why Stokes and Rashid didn’t tell the ref they hadn’t crossed?
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Maybe they didn’t know the ruling just like the “umpires” who job it is to umpire the game as well as how are they supposed to know if they crossed at the point of the throw.

You keep clutching at the straws 👍
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Maybe they didn’t know the ruling just like the “umpires” who job it is to umpire the game as well as how are they supposed to know if they crossed at the point of the throw.

You keep clutching at the straws 👍
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Ah so ignorance of the rules is ok then?

I hope you aren’t so blase about your knowledge of golf rules.
 
Big_G said:
Any reason why The Queen wasn't there to present the trophy as in 1966

I thought it was a bit of a snub with only Prince Andrew in attendance

All of the younger "A list" royals were at Wimbledon watching 2 overseas players, rather than cheering on their national team!!!
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No Germans in the Final:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Dan2501 said:
The trolling and baiting is in full force today.

Like that CWC XI. That's the exact team I picked in a post on a cricket forum earlier. (y)
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Haha, I’ll admit I’m fishing like hell today. :) I don’t think anyone could take away from the feeling of that victory though.
 
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