Mudball
Assistant Pro
Who came up with the idea of a Cricket WC in England... cant control the weather.. Next WC in India - will be a scorcher
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fundy
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Mudball
Assistant Pro
not looking good today.... Kiwis may live to fight another day. The D/L score is absurd. If NZ stop now, India need to score 237!! or 148 in 20 overs. So the side batting first scored at about 3-4 per over, the chasing side needs to do 6!!!
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Kiwis much rather get this done today than living to fight another day, especially if the fcast as bad as it looks
How is the DL absurd? Of course the DL run rate is higher for a side knowing theyre only batting 20 overs than a side expecting to bat 50! Have a look at run rates in T20s and compare to ODIs, its pretty clear. Oh and the betting odds have barely changed since it started raining which is a pretty decent insight that the DL isnt that far off the mark
Mudball
Assistant Pro
But the surface and conditions are different. If the conditions were tough for NZ then how can it suddently become a flat track for India. I think NZ made something like 25-30 in the first 10 overs.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
you genuinely think the target should be 85ish in 20 overs?
India were 80% to win when they went off, theyre currently still 80% to win according to the betting mkts. If the match was reduced to 20 overs and they were set 85 they would be 99+% to win. You think thats right? Would it be right if India had batted first and New Zealand were chasing too?
In theory yes but if they spread it around the country, a heck of a size, it could well be raining at some point. The weather has been pretty kind to this tournament so far.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
So finally washed out. Play to resume tomorrow at 10:30. Rain expected tomorrow around 2pm. Is there any reason why the ICC wont start earlier than 10:30? Why risk another washout or curtailed match? Where is the logic in this?
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Yes, because thats the rules. Been enough moaning about the weather and also starts being too early, mainly from the subcontinent, yet when it suits India suddenly theres a clamour to start at 9am, as if it isnt tilted in their favour enough lol. I read one Indian fan post today why are they playing the CWC in England in the rainy season, another ask why they dont play it India every time and a third ask why the stadiums dont all have roofs if there is a chance of rain (coming from a country where there is serious danger of future water shortages!)
Would love India to bat slowly tomorrow and be 1 run behind on DLS when the umps take them off just to see the complete and utter meltdown from the most myopic fans in the world (sadly the umps wouldnt take them off in a monsoon if India were 1 run behind)
Mudball
Assistant Pro
Dont expect twitter to be very kind on the proceeding.. it is currently 1 billion people against 11 Kiwis and the English rain gods.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
I know fully what to expect from Indian cricket fans (having run a cricket website previously), just hate their self centred myopic us us us views as if everything is perfect in cricket in India lol
Mudball
Assistant Pro
Isnt that the same with fans everywhere.. We do the same with our Footy - thanks to the Premier league. The only difference between English footy and Indian cricket is that in our case 'it hasnt come home' yet
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
haha no, nothing quite like an indian cricket fan as you well know
i guess because i try to tend to have a balanced view Id like others to be the same, Indian cricket fans and Liverpool football fans at the other end of the spectrum
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
I would love to see the meltdown of the Indian players on the pitch if that happened. India would declare a national emergency and social media would explode. I can't see anything but India playing with one eye on the weather and knocking them off as quick as they can. A couple of early wickets could make it interesting though
Dan2501
Tour Winner
Indian cricket fans are the worst. If you look at the replies to posts on Cricinfo on Twitter you'll see some truly dreadful stuff. The latest one I saw was a whole ream of Indian fans angrily dismissing the Cricinfo WC XI because they didn't pick Dhoni over Carey. Mental, Carey's been the best WK in the WC comfortably. They're so unbelievably biased, but the game breeds it, the ICC basically bow to India's demands and run the game how India want them to. The fact DRS took so long to be taken up worldwide was an absolute joke, every other nation were happy to use it except India, so it didn't happen.
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
There is a documentary on Netflix called "Death of a Gentleman" and it's pretty revealing.
I have and always will stand by my belief that test cricket is proper cricket. The shorter formats are great for a bit of fun but they aren't a proper examination of the players abilities.
If I was in charge then international tours would have a minimum of 3 test matches and a maximum of 5 T20 matches. No need for 50 overs.
I have and always will stand by my belief that test cricket is proper cricket. The shorter formats are great for a bit of fun but they aren't a proper examination of the players abilities.
If I was in charge then international tours would have a minimum of 3 test matches and a maximum of 5 T20 matches. No need for 50 overs.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Absolutely agree with regards tests and it's a format that a) needs preserving and b) a huge image boost worldwide. However I'd rather watch a 50 over game rather than too many glorified tip and run games like the T20's. Yes they can be exciting when a batsman is on fire, but hardly a fair bat v ball contest usually. I'd rather go 3, ideally 5 match test series, 3 ODI and 1 (2 max) T20. However as it's about money for each and every board, thats not going to happen and they all know cash is in the one day formats.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
I like a good test match as anyone else.. (hopefully my ashes ballot comes thru). They are a good test. T20 may be tip and run, but it brings the crowd in. More importantly it brings families and young ones in. It is fairly easy to go for a Surrey match at the end of the office day and watch some action with a beer in your hand or get into the family stands. I must say that ODI format is a bit dated ...
Re the Kiwi match, I am glad that the BCCI has managed to change the weather in Old Trafford. Yesterday it was supposed to start raininng at 3, thanks to BCCI, now it is expected to rain by 8pm. So we should have a full match.
Re the Kiwi match, I am glad that the BCCI has managed to change the weather in Old Trafford. Yesterday it was supposed to start raininng at 3, thanks to BCCI, now it is expected to rain by 8pm. So we should have a full match.
Dan2501
Tour Winner
I like cricket, in all forms. I'll more than happily watch a Test, ODi or T20 series. All different, all require different skills, all equally entertaining for me.
Weather pretty nice in Manchester this morning after a wet start. Should easily get the game finished seeing as we only need to finish half the game.
Weather pretty nice in Manchester this morning after a wet start. Should easily get the game finished seeing as we only need to finish half the game.
Rooter
Money List Winner
Are they continuing the match from where they were or starting over?
Sorry noob question!
Sorry noob question!
