2019 Cricket

[Mudball]

Not much brains on display so far this morning. Williamson for some reason decided to bat in murky conditions at Old Trafford with rain likely later in the innings. Just to level it up a little Kohli burns their review first ball with one thats barely hitting another set!

Guptils horror WC continues and its over to you again Kane

I am surprised that Dhoni did not stop him... it looked like it was missing leg.
Having said all this... what a start for India. 10-1 in 7 overs. The ball not swinging much despite all the cloud cover. Still Bhoommmmra still unplayable.

It does feel that at some point NZ will explode and go after the 5th bowler.

 

[fundy]

Its just doing enough and nibbling about to make batting tough but as you Bumrah is a joy to watch! More like a test match first 10 overs this and makes choosing to bat even stranger.

 

[fundy]

A bunsen at OT inside 20 overs lol, I wonder which side the neutral ICC prepared this pitch for

 

[Mudball]

A bunsen at OT inside 20 overs lol, I wonder which side the neutral ICC prepared this pitch for

This is hygge tv..
... Surely India is missing another spinner.. or another review.

 

[fundy]

This is hygge tv..
... Surely India is missing another spinner.. or another review.

theyd have only wasted it on that appeal by Chahal lol

 

[Mudball]

A few things that I notice in this WC.. and some of these come from T20

1) every fast/medium bowler now bowls the slow ball every over. Ignoring Bhumra, the revelation has been with Hardik Pandya. Same length deliveries seem to do 2 differnt things depending on how he rolls his fingers.
2) The Yorker is back. the ability to bowl it at will seems to be with an elite group of Bhumra, Bolt, Archer, Amir etc.

This WC, bowlers are winning rather than batsman. The pitches may be dodgy too - crumbling too quickly. If these pitches were in the subcontinent, then everyone would have the local Board responsible for it.

3) Bowlers and Spinners are now very good fielders. In the old world, bowlers would go to third man or somewhere deep to 'rest', but these guys are in the thick of it.

4) Substitutes seem to come in and out. Not sure how long India has used super fielder Jadeja in the field as a substitue

5) Specialist batsman are happy to patrol the deep not just in the 30 yard - Kohli, Pandya seem to be everywhere. Gone are the days when they go away after doing the job - Chris Gayle is probably is still probably the exception and part of the old guard

 

[HomerJSimpson]

A few things that I notice in this WC.. and some of these come from T20

1) every fast/medium bowler now bowls the slow ball every over. Ignoring Bhumra, the revelation has been with Hardik Pandya. Same length deliveries seem to do 2 differnt things depending on how he rolls his fingers.
2) The Yorker is back. the ability to bowl it at will seems to be with an elite group of Bhumra, Bolt, Archer, Amir etc.

This WC, bowlers are winning rather than batsman. The pitches may be dodgy too - crumbling too quickly. If these pitches were in the subcontinent, then everyone would have the local Board responsible for it.

3) Bowlers and Spinners are now very good fielders. In the old world, bowlers would go to third man or somewhere deep to 'rest', but these guys are in the thick of it.

4) Substitutes seem to come in and out. Not sure how long India has used super fielder Jadeja in the field as a substitue

5) Specialist batsman are happy to patrol the deep not just in the 30 yard - Kohli, Pandya seem to be everywhere. Gone are the days when they go away after doing the job - Chris Gayle is probably is still probably the exception and part of the old guard

Some good points but the game moves forward. I think if you looked at the first world cup final and this one (or even the last one) and they will look like two entirely different sports. Players and coaching staff are merely finding different ways to get better with the ball, batsmen are being more inventive in their shot making and most fielders are fitter and sharper.

 

[fundy]

A few things that I notice in this WC.. and some of these come from T20

1) every fast/medium bowler now bowls the slow ball every over. Ignoring Bhumra, the revelation has been with Hardik Pandya. Same length deliveries seem to do 2 differnt things depending on how he rolls his fingers.
2) The Yorker is back. the ability to bowl it at will seems to be with an elite group of Bhumra, Bolt, Archer, Amir etc.

This WC, bowlers are winning rather than batsman. The pitches may be dodgy too - crumbling too quickly. If these pitches were in the subcontinent, then everyone would have the local Board responsible for it.

3) Bowlers and Spinners are now very good fielders. In the old world, bowlers would go to third man or somewhere deep to 'rest', but these guys are in the thick of it.

4) Substitutes seem to come in and out. Not sure how long India has used super fielder Jadeja in the field as a substitue

5) Specialist batsman are happy to patrol the deep not just in the 30 yard - Kohli, Pandya seem to be everywhere. Gone are the days when they go away after doing the job - Chris Gayle is probably is still probably the exception and part of the old guard

Can hardly blame the local board for the pitches when they arent responsible for how they are being prepared!!!!! Likewise Sky for the Commentary rota on all accounts (which is worse than the pitches haha)

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Ill be honest for me it’s gone on too long now , got a bit boring and it seems tailored to try and ensure India get to the final


For me the overhaul of just have the top nations plus two qualifiers has reduced the excitement

Would like to see it going to 16 teams and - four groups top two then go into the knock out rounds

 

[Mudball]

Ill be honest for me it’s gone on too long now , got a bit boring and it seems tailored to try and ensure India get to the final


For me the overhaul of just have the top nations plus two qualifiers has reduced the excitement

Would like to see it going to 16 teams and - four groups top two then go into the knock out rounds

I found the format interesting... everyone got a chance. and there was none of the 'Group of Death' nonsense. You could make it shorter by having 2 games per day while still having 10 teams play each other.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Can hardly blame the local board for the pitches when they arent responsible for how they are being prepared!!!!! Likewise Sky for the Commentary rota on all accounts (which is worse than the pitches haha)

The commentary has been the absolute low point. Not Sky's fault as I believe the commentary panel has been set by the organisers and so Sky have no say who is appointed to each game. That has been the issue. Some of these have been inept at best

 

[Dan2501]

Pouring down in Didsbury right now, and doesn't feel like it's going to stop anytime soon. Could be needing that reserve day.

 

[fundy]

Pouring down in Didsbury right now, and doesn't feel like it's going to stop anytime soon. Could be needing that reserve day.

Radars not very pretty for several hours but on all accounts they can play until 9.30 tonight and theoretically we only need 20 overs of India innings so think they do everything to get it done today, especially looking at tomorrows forecast

 

[fundy]

The commentary has been the absolute low point. Not Sky's fault as I believe the commentary panel has been set by the organisers and so Sky have no say who is appointed to each game. That has been the issue. Some of these have been inept at best

The joys of Jeremy Coney for short spells on TMS today as NZ are playing. Sky has been muted for the majority of the comp!

 

[fundy]

If NZ dont bat again then their score of 211/5 after 46.1 overs will equate to the following targets:

20 ovs 148
25 ovs 172
46 ovs 237

Not sure NZ would be too unhappy with them playing later tonight in gloomy conditions for 20-25 overs

 

[Dan2501]

Rain getting a bit lighter here which is a good sign, was absolutely pouring down a little while ago. Hopefully clear in the next hour or so.

 

[Mudball]

I am sure NZ would take the rain anyday.. it will give them better runs than 2 overs of Bhumra..

 

[fundy]

I am sure NZ would take the rain anyday.. it will give them better runs than 2 overs of Bhumra..

its only giving them 26 off 23 balls even if Bumrah goes for 10 thats still only 8rpo at the other end

 

[Lord Tyrion]

The joys of Jeremy Coney for short spells on TMS today as NZ are playing. Sky has been muted for the majority of the comp!

He is an absolute pleasure to listen to. One of the joys of TMS is the commentator from the opposition country. You rarely get a bad one and Coney is a particular favourite of mine. Jim Maxwell, Australian, is excellent, Tony Crozier, WI, a real loss. Some of the voices are so melodic, the stories so gentle and easy to listen to.

 

[fundy]

He is an absolute pleasure to listen to. One of the joys of TMS is the commentator from the opposition country. You rarely get a bad one and Coney is a particular favourite of mine. Jim Maxwell, Australian, is excellent, Tony Crozier, WI, a real loss. Some of the voices are so melodic, the stories so gentle and easy to listen to.

Maxwell definitely been a bit of a throwback to days gone by for sure. Crozier sorely missed I agree. Thought Graeme Smith was excellent on the radio too

Its actually quite sad how bad some of the others are though, especially the most recent England internationals that are on the team