2019 Cricket

[Dan2501]

how on earth do you pick Wood based on the last 2 tests????????? hes 6th of 6 in order imo

Nah, I might be biased as I love Wood, but as a bowler Wood's 4th at worst, and when picking Broad and Anderson I think you need to partner them with one of the out-and-out quicks. I also wonder if they'll be considering whether or not to throw Jofra straight back in after what happened with the violation this last week. It's Wood or Archer for me without question. Without the controversy I go Archer, but I can see them going Anderson, Broad and Wood.

Maybe he is doing this because he was left out? England have to plan for a life after Anderson and Broad and rotating them and allowing others to play is part of that. To be fair, he is not like this every test either.

Nah, he's been comfortably our best bowler for the last year. 54 wickets at 22.5 in the last 12 months. He should play every Test he's fit for with the others rotating around him. Also, prepare for life without Anderson, fine, but Broads 4 years younger than him. Don't need to prepare for life without Broad anytime soon.

 

[fundy]

Nah, I might be biased as I love Wood, but as a bowler Wood's 4th at worst, and when picking Broad and Anderson I think you need to partner them with one of the out-and-out quicks. I also wonder if they'll be considering whether or not to throw Jofra straight back in after what happened with the violation this last week. It's Wood or Archer for me without question. Without the controversy I go Archer, but I can see them going Anderson, Broad and Wood.



Nah, he's been comfortably our best bowler for the last year. 54 wickets at 22.5 in the last 12 months. He should play every Test he's fit for with the others rotating around him. Also, prepare for life without Anderson, fine, but Broads 4 years younger than him. Don't need to prepare for life without Broad anytime soon.

Woods not even in the conversation imho, long way to prove hes a test bowler worthy of dropping the others in the squad for (at home at least), I think theyll go Broad, Anderson/Archer and Woakes/Curran. They cant really pick Broad, Anderson and Archer especially if considering Leach for Bess as leaves far too long a tail. If pushed, I expect Broad, Archer and Woakes be the 3 quicks

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Nah, I might be biased as I love Wood, but as a bowler Wood's 4th at worst, and when picking Broad and Anderson I think you need to partner them with one of the out-and-out quicks. I also wonder if they'll be considering whether or not to throw Jofra straight back in after what happened with the violation this last week. It's Wood or Archer for me without question. Without the controversy I go Archer, but I can see them going Anderson, Broad and Wood.



Nah, he's been comfortably our best bowler for the last year. 54 wickets at 22.5 in the last 12 months. He should play every Test he's fit for with the others rotating around him. Also, prepare for life without Anderson, fine, but Broads 4 years younger than him. Don't need to prepare for life without Broad anytime soon.

Fair play, I had not checked the stats. Broad has often frustrated for me. So good at times, wonderfully good, and then in other tests he will bowl too short and be totally ineffective. He will do the same for a whole match and everyone screams at him to pitch it further up to no avail. I am guilty of the frustrating matches sticking in my mind. Also didn't realise he was that much younger than Anderson.

Every day is a learning day

 

[fundy]

No review for Woakes, have to save them for Broad lol

 

[Dan2501]

The sample size is small but Wood has 20 wickets at 18 in the 4 Tests he's played in the last 2 years. He might be fragile and injury prone, but he takes wickets when he plays. Wasn't great at Southampton (although I didn't get to watch a huge amount of it) but took 9 in the Test he played before that game. He's a wicket taker and his pace can be a real x-factor in those phases of the game where the wicket flattens out.

Maybe I'm a bit old school with my selections, but for me, the length of the tail is not a factor I think about when I'm selecting bowlers to win me a Test match, especially at home against the Windies, the batsmen should be good enough to do their job. I'm picking the attack most likely to get me 20 wickets, and that would be Anderson, Broad, Wood/Archer, Stokes and one of the spinners. I'd also be hesitant to play Anderson and Woakes together, one or the other for me (unless it's green and looks like it's going to hoop round corners), same with Wood and Archer, one or the other, leads to a 1 dimensional attack otherwise. The variety of swing from Anderson, seam from Broad, raw pace from Archer or Wood would be my pace attack if everyone's fit / there are no other circumstances.

 

[fundy]

The sample size is small but Wood has 20 wickets at 18 in the 4 Tests he's played in the last 2 years. He might be fragile and injury prone, but he takes wickets when he plays. Wasn't great at Southampton (although I didn't get to watch a huge amount of it) but took 9 in the Test he played before that game. He's a wicket taker and his pace can be a real x-factor in those phases of the game where the wicket flattens out.

Maybe I'm a bit old school with my selections, but for me, the length of the tail is not a factor I think about when I'm selecting bowlers to win me a Test match, especially at home against the Windies, the batsmen should be good enough to do their job. I'm picking the attack most likely to get me 20 wickets, and that would be Anderson, Broad, Wood/Archer, Stokes and one of the spinners. I'd also be hesitant to play Anderson and Woakes together, one or the other for me (unless it's green and looks like it's going to hoop round corners), same with Wood and Archer, one or the other, leads to a 1 dimensional attack otherwise. The variety of swing from Anderson, seam from Broad, raw pace from Archer or Wood would be my pace attack if everyone's fit / there are no other circumstances.

Id agree with that if there was a massive difference between the bowlers and their abilities then you pick the better bowler, when their a lot closer ability wise i think you have to consider the balance of attack and also length of tail

Woods wicket taking mid innings mainly comes from reverse swing, theres been all but none of that with the current sailva ban and ultimately think that will count against him as will how he bowled at Southampton

Archer/Wood 8, Broad 9, Anderson 10, Leach 11 is just a step too far as a tail

 

[fundy]

World 2020 been put pack a year to October/November 2021. Will be another one in 2022 too then a 50 over WC in 2023

 

[Dan2501]

Needed that, great timing as well just before tea. Nice take from Buttler.

 

[fundy]

seems the cancelled World T20 going to be replaced with an Indian Premier League in the UAE, id like to say im surprised..........

 

[Dan2501]

What a way to win it, superb catch at short leg from Pope. Cracking win.

 

[fundy]

Good win after the time lost in the game, slight worry about Stokes having to stop bowling cos of a niggle, weve become mightily reliant on him!

 

[patricks148]

Good win, at least the series is still alive.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Good performance but can't help thinking the West Indies helped their own downfall. All to play for next time out so hopefully five days of play unaffected by the weather and a pitch that gives something to the bowlers early on but batsmen can get in on and make a score

 

[Junior]

Bowling attack for the next test ?

As much as i want to get Anderson in I'd go unchanged.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

At some point we have to start looking beyond Anderson (and Broad to a degree) and find who works best.

 

[fundy]

Bowling attack for the next test ?

As much as i want to get Anderson in I'd go unchanged.

archer and leach for curran and bess for me

 

[Junior]

archer and leach for curran and bess for me

The Curran situation is an interesting one. England haven't lost a test with him in the side and he offeres something different. Skiddy swing as opposed to a hit the deck type. I also never realised how good Woakes record was at home and how good Wood's is in the past 2 years. You could honestly pick any combination of Broad , Anderson, Archer, Wood , Woakes and Curran.

Agree with Leach, he'd have been in my side in the first test.

 

[fundy]

The Curran situation is an interesting one. England haven't lost a test with him in the side and he offeres something different. Skiddy swing as opposed to a hit the deck type. I also never realised how good Woakes record was at home and how good Wood's is in the past 2 years. You could honestly pick any combination of Broad , Anderson, Archer, Wood , Woakes and Curran.

Agree with Leach, he'd have been in my side in the first test.

I think the Leach selection is a bit more complicated because of his illness and being potentially vulnerable, hence Bess getting first go in the series, but got to be hard to pick him again after how hes bowled the last 2 tests

Re the quicks think the balance and length of tail are likely to be key parts of the discussion, its nice that we suddenly have lots of options rather than being worried about what happens when Broad and Anderson finally go. Woakes at home is excellent, swings it and hits the seam as well as scoring a lot of runs (albeit not so recently). Still not quite sure what to make of Curran. Clearly brings variety and has produced some big moments in games when needed, just struggle to have him as one of the best 3 bowling options currently (Root kind of agrees too as often reluctant to bowl him it seems). They may use Archers indiscretion to make their decision easier and pick Anderson over him too

 

[Mudball]

Helping my son move his kit & lunch bag after cricket camp yesterday. Put my hand into something, and found a half eaten peach. bits everywhere.... Boys never grow up - i m sure there is dead banana in my golf bag.

Talking of cost... booked my son for some 1-1 coaching... it costs a mortgage and a half. I know quality comes at a price, but about 50 quid a session, it is more expensive than my usual green fees. Hopefully he understands it that his dad has nearly given up golf so he can play cricket

 

[Dan2501]

No Leach. Jofra and Jimmy back in the squad. Silverwood has admitted they'll play their strongest XI. So for me, that means Anderson and Broad back together, with Bess and then one of Archer, Woakes or Wood. I'd go Archer or Wood for the extra pace and variation, so probably Archer. Batting line-up will stay the same. That's if we get much play, weather's been rotten the last couple of days (I'm 17 miles from Old Trafford) and isn't meant to improve too much, tomorrow should be okay but weekend we'll likely see some showers. Hopefully won't affect the game too badly.