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Interesting choice of openers and fair play to Root for going for it. Not sure you can blame Butler for a failure in an unfamiliar position but the shot wasn't great and while it will be interesting to give Foakes a go I can't see it happening in this series
 

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Found England's approach with the bat last night pretty frustrating to watch. Stokes was trying to smash the leather off it despite most of the fielders being back on the boundary. Buttler got out having a big swipe, as did Crawley, none of those shots were necessary. Field is back, milk the strike, get bat on ball run the ones and twos and force them to bring fielders up and then hit the big shots when there are actually gaps. Stokes is lucky he didn't connect with one otherwise he'd have thrown his wicket away. It took Root coming out for them to play properly and start knocking it around and the scoring became more consistent and the runs started to add up with them getting 17 off the 3 full overs after Root came out. More of that this morning please.
 

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Hopefully they'll bat for 10 overs this morning and then declare to give themselves 86 overs to bowl WI out. Six overs at the end with a new ball could come in handy if it's getting close.
 

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According to TMS it is a time wasting ploy. Sneaky blighters :unsure:.

They mentioned that on Sky and Nass basically said it's pointless on the last day when there's a set amount of overs to be bowled, they have to get through the overs. Wasting 2 mins on a review isn't going to help them.

312 set, that's not going to be chaseable, it's the 85 overs to survive that's the big number. Should be an interesting day.
 

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They mentioned that on Sky and Nass basically said it's pointless on the last day when there's a set amount of overs to be bowled, they have to get through the overs. Wasting 2 mins on a review isn't going to help them.

312 set, that's not going to be chaseable, it's the 85 overs to survive that's the big number. Should be an interesting day.
Perhaps they are hoping the light will be poor later and they will not get the full 85 in? That or it helps to break up the momentum of a batting charge?

You can argue about whether Root should have tempted the WI a little into a chase but that rarely happens at Test level and not for england for a very long time. Good numbers, if we can't get them out on day 5 in 85 overs then we don't deserve the win.
 

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Perhaps they are hoping the light will be poor later and they will not get the full 85 in? That or it helps to break up the momentum of a batting charge?

You can argue about whether Root should have tempted the WI a little into a chase but that rarely happens at Test level and not for england for a very long time. Good numbers, if we can't get them out on day 5 in 85 overs then we don't deserve the win.

Hmm, maybe, although it getting dark at the back end of the day could hurt the WI more than England if they have to continue batting in it.

Need to start strong, hopefully Broad will be right on the money. England in a really strong position, should win from here but WI won't go down without a fight.
 

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Hmm, maybe, although it getting dark at the back end of the day could hurt the WI more than England if they have to continue batting in it.

Need to start strong, hopefully Broad will be right on the money. England in a really strong position, should win from here but WI won't go down without a fight.


Fcast is ok but they will only play if light enough late on hence Holders tactics
 

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Hmm, maybe, although it getting dark at the back end of the day could hurt the WI more than England if they have to continue batting in it.

Need to start strong, hopefully Broad will be right on the money. England in a really strong position, should win from here but WI won't go down without a fight.
If the light is bad they will come off. The umpires have to take safety into account. Saying that, hopefully it will not be needed based on this first spell.

(before anyone jumps in, Pakistan v England all those years ago excepted :D)
 

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If the light is bad they will come off. The umpires have to take safety into account. Saying that, hopefully it will not be needed based on this first spell.

(before anyone jumps in, Pakistan v England all those years ago excepted :D)


bad light rules have changed a bit since then!!!!!

theyll already have a level set from earlier in the test, if it goes below theyll come off
 

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bad light rules have changed a bit since then!!!!!

theyll already have a level set from earlier in the test, if it goes below theyll come off
Yeah, I know. It is just such a well known example that is the exception to the rule, for good reasons, that I thought I should mention it before someone else did. My original point to Dan was that bad light could reduce the number of overs left to bowl and so using time for reviews did have some vailidity to it.

Incidentally, if a team did waste time in the same way again could the umpires still keep the teams out or would they have to go off, no option, and the match referee would end up banning, or similar, the captain as punishment instead?
 

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How do you leave Broad out? Madness. Anderson, Broad and Wood next Test for me.
Maybe he is doing this because he was left out? England have to plan for a life after Anderson and Broad and rotating them and allowing others to play is part of that. To be fair, he is not like this every test either.
 
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