fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Buttler still looks out of nick and has gone to 50 off 23 balls.......
2019 Cricket
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fundy
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Lovely stuff that!
Robin Hood
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Brilliant England
SteveJay
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What an enjoyable game.....absolute carnage 
Dan2501
Tour Winner
What a fantastic series. Thought we'd lost it with our lack of discipline with the ball, especially with all the extras, but this batting line-up really can chase down anything. Mental that they chased down 220 with an over to spare. Sort out the bowlers, which will almost sort itself out when Jofra comes back, and we'll be a real force in the T20 WC. We've got brutal, powerful hitting all the way down the line-up, a superb fielding unit, raw pace, variety, quality leg-spin and one of the best T20 bowlers in the world in Archer. Exciting times.
sussexhacker
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Some people are very quick to write off Jordan after one bad game forgetting how he bowled at the death in the 2 previous games
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
wouldnt be writing Jordan off at all, or Curran, far more worried about Wood especially as hes played far less T20 stuff and is far more one dimensional
the more I watch the more i find it hard to see anyone in both the test and t20 sides bar the real exceptional talents and even then I think theyre better off focussing on one or the other, for England Stokes and possibly Archer the only real candidates currently, just too much variety of skills and far too much workload, physically and mentally
sussexhacker
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Wood isn’t a very good t20 player on roads but hopefully when he gets on Aussie tracks for the World Cup he’ll get the bounce he needs because as you say he’s very one dimensional doesn’t have the range of slower balls a Curran or archer has
Very much agree the test team and t20 should be almost entirely separate barring stokes and archer maybe I could see a case for Ali returning to tests if he proves he’s sorted out issues against the short ball etc
They’ve done the right thing leaving root out he needs to focus on tests and odis
Now they need to tell bairstow he’s not going to play tests anymore foakes is far better and cut Denly loose from the t20 side
Very much agree the test team and t20 should be almost entirely separate barring stokes and archer maybe I could see a case for Ali returning to tests if he proves he’s sorted out issues against the short ball etc
They’ve done the right thing leaving root out he needs to focus on tests and odis
Now they need to tell bairstow he’s not going to play tests anymore foakes is far better and cut Denly loose from the t20 side
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
I think Ali is good enough for the test team at his best, but think hes made it clear he isnt going to be able to play all formats and its tests that are going to give, be great to have him in SL (and India next yr) but think hes better off focussing on the white ball and reducing the workload/pressure.
Genuinely think Stokes is going to have to choose one or the other sooner rather than later if he wants to ensure longevity of his career too, may be a harder choice for him at least short term
Personally would have Buttler, Bairstow only as white ball players, and on the other side Root in the red ball side
I think the 50 over side can pull from both albeit will be more swayed towards the T20 players
Schedules are getting more and more congested and skills more and more specialised, it wont be long until there arent any players playing both extreme formats at the very top level for long
sussexhacker
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It would be good to see Ali back in the test side if he was properly mentally ready but at the same time we aren’t really desperate to have him back in there
I think stokes has 1/2 more years of all 3 formats then he’ll have to go one route or another I personally think he’ll just give up t20i’s I can’t see him giving up on test matches while he’s still able to do 5 full days physically
I don’t think bairstow should be anywhere near the test team Buttler either on current form but I feel he is good enough if he went and played some county cricket and got some red ball form
Root definitely should be test team and one dayers only he averages over 50 in odis I think
I agree schedules are far too congested there’s no rest period for the top guys in all formats anymore the only way they get a break is to do what Moeen did and say I can’t carry on like this any more I’m taking a Personal break
I think you’ll end up with a few different categories of players
You’ll have the test specialists like jimmy
Test and odi players like root
White ball players like Buttler
And then 20 over circus players like rashid Khan
I think stokes has 1/2 more years of all 3 formats then he’ll have to go one route or another I personally think he’ll just give up t20i’s I can’t see him giving up on test matches while he’s still able to do 5 full days physically
I don’t think bairstow should be anywhere near the test team Buttler either on current form but I feel he is good enough if he went and played some county cricket and got some red ball form
Root definitely should be test team and one dayers only he averages over 50 in odis I think
I agree schedules are far too congested there’s no rest period for the top guys in all formats anymore the only way they get a break is to do what Moeen did and say I can’t carry on like this any more I’m taking a Personal break
I think you’ll end up with a few different categories of players
You’ll have the test specialists like jimmy
Test and odi players like root
White ball players like Buttler
And then 20 over circus players like rashid Khan
got me thinking about Morgan, love the way he carries himself and how he thinks and talks about the game esp over the last 3 years.
what a shame he could never hold down a place in the test side, what a test Captain he would have made.
what a shame he could never hold down a place in the test side, what a test Captain he would have made.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
good leader of men, not so sure about tactician, especially in the longer format
wasnt at his best today for sure, leaving Wood to bowl over 20 when he shouldve got another over form Moeen earlier
possibly, but, didn't panic, Wood bowled poorly, but on a road with short boundry.... he did better than the cock
Whats happened to Pluncket??
he was a good death bowlers in the WC as far as i remember
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
possibly, but, didn't panic, Wood bowled poorly, but on a road with short boundry.... he did better than the cock
Whats happened to Pluncket??
he was a good death bowlers in the WC as far as i remember
surplus to requirements/not fashionable/going to play for USA!
did a job in the middle overs that we are yet to replicate elsewhere yet thats for sure
thats a shame, can't have been that old. remember him winning a few games with bat and ball in 50 over
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fundy
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mid 30s now i guess, getting to the twilight years for sure, may have been useful in aus next year tho!
sussexhacker
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We’ve got plenty of options enough not to need him
He served us well winning the World Cup but at 34 and seeing as we’re not lacking in replacement options to blood into the side it’s not much of a loss
He served us well winning the World Cup but at 34 and seeing as we’re not lacking in replacement options to blood into the side it’s not much of a loss
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Sat through the SA innings at the club and thought they would have perhaps got 10-12 more especially after their blistering start. England were excellent in the chase though and it looks encouraging going forward. I think there are changes that will be made especially in the bowling department but the basis is solid and they clearly have a huge amount of self-belief
Junior
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Great series........Jordan and Wood I think are class. Both have serious pace and 2 matches ago they got 4 for 8 in the last 2 overs between them to drag us back into the game. They'd be in my team all day long.
The last match was quite a spectacle, and not a ground or wicket to judge bowlers on. I was always critical about Curran, but he held his nerve in the 2 match of the series and had a worldy of a Big Bash tournament (by all accounts, i didnt see any of it). I think between Wood, Jordan, Mahmood, Archer they have enough raw pace, and if Curran can continue using the variations well, then I think the seam attack looks good for the T20 world cup. I expect hales to come in and Butler to drop down to be a finsiher.
Roy
Hales
Bairstowe
Morgan
Stokes
Buttler
Ali / Malan
Rashid
Jordan
Wood
Archer if fit - If not Curran / Mahmood
The last match was quite a spectacle, and not a ground or wicket to judge bowlers on. I was always critical about Curran, but he held his nerve in the 2 match of the series and had a worldy of a Big Bash tournament (by all accounts, i didnt see any of it). I think between Wood, Jordan, Mahmood, Archer they have enough raw pace, and if Curran can continue using the variations well, then I think the seam attack looks good for the T20 world cup. I expect hales to come in and Butler to drop down to be a finsiher.
Roy
Hales
Bairstowe
Morgan
Stokes
Buttler
Ali / Malan
Rashid
Jordan
Wood
Archer if fit - If not Curran / Mahmood
