2019 Cricket

HomerJSimpson said:
Simple answer is to quota the number of bouncers. I simply think batsmen trying to do what Smith and Bravo did and bat on are doing their health no good and that it could be dangerous. Think you're taking this hugely out of context. As concussion can take time to come out, how long do you delay a player? Do you let him bat in the second innings?
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You havent even answered the one question I posed.

Bouncers are already on a quota and it hasn't stopped the recent incidents. Do we dilute even further?

Cricket is a sport, like many others, with an element of personal danger. A very small one, but it's there, and every batsman accepts it each time they walk out to the middle

At international level, I'd suggest a stronger more defined protocol that is applied by an independent expert in each game. Don't put pressure on the team doctors to implement.
 
Looking forward to a good couple of days at OT. Hopefully the rain stays away.

Khawaja dropped is interesting although Harris is a top player. It's a strange dynamic when the only player in the team they should drop is the one you can't.......the captain.

Can't see Overton getting in, England should remain unchanged. Not sure about the Denly switch. He finally gets past 50 at 4 and goes up to open, when he doesn't even open for his county. I hope Roy gets some at 4 and Buttler gets a score, otherwise the axes will be out for the next test.

Series is set up well. Test cricket......best game in the world.
 
TheDiablo said:
You havent even answered the one question I posed.

Bouncers are already on a quota and it hasn't stopped the recent incidents. Do we dilute even further?

Cricket is a sport, like many others, with an element of personal danger. A very small one, but it's there, and every batsman accepts it each time they walk out to the middle

At international level, I'd suggest a stronger more defined protocol that is applied by an independent expert in each game. Don't put pressure on the team doctors to implement.
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You need the same level of protocols they appear to have at Rugby , as you say cricket is a dangerous sport and as with other “hard ball” sports like Hockey players know the dangers and “diluting” them won’t help the sport in anyway.

Maybe it’s times for “neutral” doctors , when they are being assessed no other person from the team can be there to try and influence them etc

The only issue I see is the potential for someone to make use of any “substitute” etc
 
Don't necessarily disagree with picking Overton, don't know a huge amount about him, but out of interest what's wrong with Lewis Gregory? Same County, more wickets, more runs and both at a better average than Overton this season. How come Overton gets the pick?

Also, would have gone Sam Curran for the variation if we were dropping Woakes.
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
You need the same level of protocols they appear to have at Rugby , as you say cricket is a dangerous sport and as with other “hard ball” sports like Hockey players know the dangers and “diluting” them won’t help the sport in anyway.

Maybe it’s times for “neutral” doctors , when they are being assessed no other person from the team can be there to try and influence them etc

The only issue I see is the potential for someone to make use of any “substitute” etc
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Bloodgate all over again!

I agree with this. The current method isn't working, take it out of the hands of those with a vested interest.
 
Dan2501 said:
Don't necessarily disagree with picking Overton, don't know a huge amount about him, but out of interest what's wrong with Lewis Gregory? Same County, more wickets, more runs and both at a better average than Overton this season. How come Overton gets the pick?

Also, would have gone Sam Curran for the variation if we were dropping Woakes.
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Gregory has just come back from injury - if he didn’t pick up that injury then he imo would be picked over both Curran and Overton - but Overton is still a good pick imo
 
Liverpoolphil said:
You need the same level of protocols they appear to have at Rugby , as you say cricket is a dangerous sport and as with other “hard ball” sports like Hockey players know the dangers and “diluting” them won’t help the sport in anyway.

Maybe it’s times for “neutral” doctors , when they are being assessed no other person from the team can be there to try and influence them etc

The only issue I see is the potential for someone to make use of any “substitute” etc
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It is an interesting one and an area that I have, admitedly, little real knowledge as far as cricket is concerned. Suppose I would look at the helmet first and whether any further padding or impact absorbtion is necessary. Am I right in thinking that Smith was not wearing the redisgned helmet intorduced after the tragic Hughes incident. Maybe that should be compulary.

As for the substitute, I would go down the route of having rigid concussion protocols as with rugby. A substitute is allowed on for that time period and if the player cannot return then the rules applying the use of a 12th man apply. There will always be the issue of delayed symptoms but not sure how you can get round that.

Neutral dcotors to carry out concussion protocols should be mandatory in any sport as the player seldom wants to leave the field.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Gregory has just come back from injury - if he didn’t pick up that injury then he imo would be picked over both Curran and Overton - but Overton is still a good pick imo
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Ah, okay, fair enough. Makes sense, thanks (y)

Have to feel for Sam Curran. Was our player of the summer last year and a spot opens up in place of Woakes and he gets overlooked. Shame for him, just hope Overton delivers, did pick up a few wickets in Australia, but not personally seen a whole lot of him.
 
Dan2501 said:
Ah, okay, fair enough. Makes sense, thanks (y)

Have to feel for Sam Curran. Was our player of the summer last year and a spot opens up in place of Woakes and he gets overlooked. Shame for him, just hope Overton delivers, did pick up a few wickets in Australia, but not personally seen a whole lot of him.
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Its a horses for courses pick. Expected to be a quick pitch, which they're hoping the pace and bounce of Overton will exploit.

Overton reminds me of the Tremlett pick later in his career which worked out pretty well for a time so fingers crossed for him

Curran wouldve been picked on almost any other track imo, especially as they've lost a good number 8 in Woakes
 
I would have thought S Curran, being left arm, offers something a bit different. We've got Broad and Archer for a bit of nip and bounce, plus Stokes. Is Overton more of the same of what we've got? Anyway, on form, Woakes was a dead man walking.
 
Piece said:
I would have thought S Curran, being left arm, offers something a bit different. We've got Broad and Archer for a bit of nip and bounce, plus Stokes. Is Overton more of the same of what we've got? Anyway, on form, Woakes was a dead man walking.
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Might be concerned about the selection of a left armer creating rough for Lyon to exploit against our right hand batters.
 
fundy said:
Flat easy paced pitched, good toss to win despite the 2 early wickets. What happened to the fast bouncy Old Trafford theyve been hyping up all week
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North west England in September not really going to produce dry, hard and fast cricket pitches.

I'm a couple of hours north of Manchester but its been very wet, cool and very definately Autumn for the last couple of weeks.

Poor scheduling due to 20/20 World Cup.
 
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