fundy
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if its not 1 then the rankings are wrong
Lol its 7, its wrong!
Lets see if anyone can name the 6 better without cheating
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if its not 1 then the rankings are wrong
Lol its 7, its wrong!
Lets see if anyone can name the 6 better without cheating
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if its not 1 then the rankings are wrong
Lol its 7, its wrong!
Lets see if anyone can name the 6 better without cheating
Anderson , Boult , Rabada , Philander , Cummins and Hazlewood ?
Edit - or is it Lyon ?
fundy
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You got the 5 that are believable
Amir or Abbas ? Unless by miracle someone like Roach has snuck in there
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Mudball
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just saw the replays during drinks break... acc to Cricinfo: Bhumra has Five-fors in four countries and a hat-trick. In 12 Tests has 55 wickets already..
Dan2501
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Bumrah is insanely good. Been a few promising fast bowlers come through for India, but this lad is far and away the best they've had since 2010-11 Zaheer Khan. He's got everything and is a proper wicket taker. His highest average with the ball in any format is 23 in FC cricket in India. Averages 21 in ODis, 20 in T20i's and 18 in Tests, seriously good bowler.
Mudball
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Its funny how India has been producing some good fast bowlers lately.. Kholi having problem of plenty with Booorah, Ishan, Bhuvi, Shami, Umesh and a few others. Interesting in a country with spinning tracks and dead wickets is giving rise to fast bowling. As you say Bumrah is a different breed .. surprisingly not #1 though
HomerJSimpson
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Immense he can get wickets on sub-continent wickets. As a follow up here are the bowling rankings and Bumrah #1 in ODI
https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/player-rankings/test
https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/player-rankings/odi
https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/player-rankings/t20i
I *sort* of get the Denly opening shout. At least from his perspective. Well, at the very least I am trying to.
He is of an age and been seen enough now to know that unless he gets back to back tons hes probably done for England. They want to try Roy in the middle, they want a proper run for Pope etc.
Whereas if he shows a bit of application and scores a couple of 50s opening the batting he probably gets the winter opening too, and who knows from there.
I don't really get it from England's perspective though, although due to the lack of red ball cricket being played its nigh on impossible to expect someone to slot in straight away for 2 huge games with no experience and based on form in May.
Might as well try something a bit different I suppose.
He is of an age and been seen enough now to know that unless he gets back to back tons hes probably done for England. They want to try Roy in the middle, they want a proper run for Pope etc.
Whereas if he shows a bit of application and scores a couple of 50s opening the batting he probably gets the winter opening too, and who knows from there.
I don't really get it from England's perspective though, although due to the lack of red ball cricket being played its nigh on impossible to expect someone to slot in straight away for 2 huge games with no experience and based on form in May.
Might as well try something a bit different I suppose.
2blue
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An interesting read in deed, especially the comparisons to the '81 Test.
Does anyone know what the betting odds were after the 3rd day in this last Test?
In '81 they went into several 1,000's to 1 & there was a lot of talk in Leeds of Aussies doing well out of it (Cricketers on poor money in those days). Certainly can't think of similar odds since then for any event as Bookies are pretty quick learners.
Am I making it up?..... certainly lots of dodgy happenings occurred, particularly the runout miss-handle.
Even a reference in that article....
"Dimly, Paine divined this. Ricky Ponting said Stokes’ innings was the best he had seen in Tests, and that covers a few. In time, they will get mileage out of their fall guy roles. The boys of '81 have. But, hopefully, it will not transpire that any of them made a killing!"
Also worth recalling that England went on to win the '81 Series comfortably
fundy
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An interesting read in deed, especially the comparisons to the '81 Test.
Does anyone know what the betting odds were after the 3rd day in this last Test?
In '81 they went into several 1,000's to 1 & there was a lot of talk in Leeds of Aussies doing well out of it (Cricketers on poor money in those days). Certainly can't think of similar odds since then for any event as Bookies are pretty quick learners.
Am I making it up?..... certainly lots of dodgy happenings occurred, particularly the runout miss-handle.
Even a reference in that article....
"Dimly, Paine divined this. Ricky Ponting said Stokes’ innings was the best he had seen in Tests, and that covers a few. In time, they will get mileage out of their fall guy roles. The boys of '81 have. But, hopefully, it will not transpire that any of them made a killing!"
Also worth recalling that England went on to win the '81 Series comfortably
Have seen far more than my fair share of corrupt cricket matches, this wasnt one of them
Far easier to corrupt (and profit from) the shorter formats than test matches in this day and age, especially with markets way more efficient than they were even a handful of years ago and less likely to massive over reactions as they used to be
At the start of their innings they were 5/1 to chase 359, at start of last day (156/3) England were barely bigger than 2/1 and only went to 25/1 when Leach came out to bat with 76 still needed
Put it into context, in the T20 blast the other night, Somerset set Middlesex 226 in 20 overs. Middlesex were generally a 9/2 shot. Just a few years ago theyd have been a 25s+ shot in this situation but both the game has changed and the mkts are far more accurate with a large amount of people modelling even the extreme scenarios. (Middlesex won with 3 overs to spare btw, Somerset were prob 40 short lol)
You do get 1000/1 winners on Betfair regularly across all sports, but in most situations they are genuinely bigger shots than 1000/1 to happen, just that many markets! Was a 100/1 winner on completed match mkt on one of the womens cricket games this morning!
fundy
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More issues for the concussion protocol today, Darren Bravo was hit on the head yesterday. Came out to bat today, batted 4 overs, retired hurt with delayed concussion symptoms and was then replaced by a concussion sub.
Struggle to see how he was allowed to come out to bat yet 15 minutes later there was clear signs of delayed symptoms. We cant be far away from far more severe prevention measures being introduced for those who have been hit
Struggle to see how he was allowed to come out to bat yet 15 minutes later there was clear signs of delayed symptoms. We cant be far away from far more severe prevention measures being introduced for those who have been hit
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
And surely stronger measures wouldn't harm the game. We've seen deaths and no-one wants another so if a player gets hit, then get them off, bring a sub on and don't let them bat for the rest of the match. Rigorous test before the next match and go from there
Terrible idea.
How do you define a 'hit'?
There's been a freak accident in the last however many years of top class cricket.
Better awareness of concussion and a defined protocol is obviously a good thing. Your suggestion is not.
Its a rule that would end up with bowlers just bowling bouncers - you'd need a squad of 20+ on some pitches. Therefore you're actually putting them more at risk!!
Star batsmen comes in - let's aim for the helmet. Get him subbed out.
Star bowler - specialist in bouncers comes in to bat in first innings - literally let's not try take his wicket - just go for the helmet and get him ruled out for the test.
Dan2501
Tour Winner
The TWC seems like it's been planned well........:/ West Indies don't play another Test until July 2020, so will stay on 0 points until that point. By then, India could have 480. How are they meant to improve without playing? Doesn't seem to have been organised particularly well.
Also, Australia have announced their 12 for the next Test. Khawaja and Pattinson out, Smith back in. Seems like it's a choice between Siddle and Starc for the final spot, and I imagine they'll go Starc after he picked up a few wickets in the Tour match.
Also, Australia have announced their 12 for the next Test. Khawaja and Pattinson out, Smith back in. Seems like it's a choice between Siddle and Starc for the final spot, and I imagine they'll go Starc after he picked up a few wickets in the Tour match.
It will be Starc. Lots of noise about his improved consistency, and OT will be the quickest pitch of the series. Pattinson will then come back in for one of them at the oval I would think
HomerJSimpson
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Simple answer is to quota the number of bouncers. I simply think batsmen trying to do what Smith and Bravo did and bat on are doing their health no good and that it could be dangerous. Think you're taking this hugely out of context. As concussion can take time to come out, how long do you delay a player? Do you let him bat in the second innings?
