2019 Cricket

[fundy]

Fun pitch at Canterbury in the CC it seems

Kent 226
Essex 114
Kent 40 (9 top score!!!)
Essex need 153 to win lol

I see Jimmy Anderson has got through 9 overs in the stiffs today too

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Fun pitch at Canterbury in the CC it seems

Kent 226
Essex 114
Kent 40 (9 top score!!!)
Essex need 153 to win lol

I see Jimmy Anderson has got through 9 overs in the stiffs today too

Will that pitch get reported? I seem to remember (stand to be corrected) if a team was bowled out cheaply or x wickets feel in a day it got reported automatically.

 

[Dan2501]

Ollie Pope apparently played an absolutely blinding innings yesterday at The Oval. Put himself right in contention to take Denly's spot if he fails again.

Sibley not exactly smashing the door down for the opener spot unfortunately.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Ollie Pope apparently played an absolutely blinding innings yesterday at The Oval. Put himself right in contention to take Denly's spot if he fails again.

Sibley not exactly smashing the door down for the opener spot unfortunately.

If Roy and Denly both get similar scores again who gets dropped first? Denly looks better equipped than Roy, perhaps not enough to hold down a mid order spot though, but opener is the weakest spot in reserve right now and they will be desperate for Roy to succeed.

 

[Dan2501]

I can't see them replacing Roy anytime soon tbh. I think they like him around the team and are going to give him a proper run to see if he's good enough. Not convinced he is and think we should make a change, but if he manages to figure it out he could be a real asset.

Denly's 33, has only 1 fifty in 10 innings, if he fails again this week then I think he's done, and Pope certainly seems like a decent option, but the only worry would be that he's only just come back from injury. Averages over 50 in FC cricket, and they obviously rate him having picked him to play India and tour Sri Lanka. Has to be worth a go trying to blood a youngster.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Ollie Pope apparently played an absolutely blinding innings yesterday at The Oval. Put himself right in contention to take Denly's spot if he fails again.

Sibley not exactly smashing the door down for the opener spot unfortunately.

So on the basis of one knock Pope is in your eyes a prime candidate but one bad game in an otherwise excellent season is enough to write off Sibley.

That's England selectors type thinking.

 

[Dan2501]

Where did I write off Sibley? :/ Just said he's not smashing the door down this week, I've been pushing for Sibley to be picked for a few weeks, just a shame he couldn't make a big score this week to almost force the selectors hand.

 

[fundy]

Will that pitch get reported? I seem to remember (stand to be corrected) if a team was bowled out cheaply or x wickets feel in a day it got reported automatically.

It may have done if Essex had lost, but unlikely after they won

They are far less likely to look at pitches after the toss rules changed and the away side can choose to bat. Many years since a side were deducted points in CC (or Somerset wouldve been most game last couple of years )

 

[stefanovic]

Watched Warwick v Somerset at Edgbaston yesterday.
Local player Rob Yates, age 19 has scored 194 runs in the match.

 

[TheDiablo]

So on the basis of one knock Pope is in your eyes a prime candidate but one bad game in an otherwise excellent season is enough to write off Sibley.

That's England selectors type thinking.

Not really one knock with Ollie Pope though is it? Averaging 65+ in the last 2 seasons, couple of big double hundreds and 6 FC tonnes at 21. Serious talent.

 

[Junior]

Pope is a serious talent. I see he bats at 5 for Surrey, would you think he'd just slot in at 4 for England ? I think he's a better option than Denly. Interesting piece on captains that Sky are running. When Hussain and Fletcher were rebuilding they looked at charachteer as much as statistics and thats why the likes of Vaughan were picked. maybe they see something in Denly.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Pope is a serious talent. I see he bats at 5 for Surrey, would you think he'd just slot in at 4 for England ? I think he's a better option than Denly. Interesting piece on captains that Sky are running. When Hussain and Fletcher were rebuilding they looked at charachteer as much as statistics and thats why the likes of Vaughan were picked. maybe they see something in Denly.

The difficulty for him is that England have an excess of middle order batsmen, they lack at 1, 2 and 3. Anyone wanting 4, 5 and 6 has to get past Root, Butler, Bairstow and Stokes and I don't see the selectors looking to drop any of those. (I'm including Root in that as he needs to get back to 4 rather than another failed experiment at batting him higher up. The stats say 4 every time, why mess around with him?)

 

[Dan2501]

Pope has been called up as cover for Jason Roy who has passed preliminary concussion testing, but will be re-tested on Thursday morning.

 

[Deleted member 3432]

Pope has been called up as cover for Jason Roy who has passed preliminary concussion testing, but will be re-tested on Thursday morning.

So a middle order batter called up to be on standby for the opener......superb thinking

Or an admission Denly is to be moved up to open?

 

[fundy]

Pope is a serious talent. I see he bats at 5 for Surrey, would you think he'd just slot in at 4 for England ? I think he's a better option than Denly. Interesting piece on captains that Sky are running. When Hussain and Fletcher were rebuilding they looked at charachteer as much as statistics and thats why the likes of Vaughan were picked. maybe they see something in Denly.

well weve tried him out of position at 3, why not try 4 lol if he came in should be coming in to bat 6 but theres a blockage there with a number of square pegs in round holes incapable of moving up (rather than down) the order as experienced so called test match batters should be!

hes been on concussion cover all series (as has Sibley), I expect that hes been called up is no shock after Bayliss admitting Roy shouldnt be an opener the other day lol. Good luck against the new ball Joe (well 5 overs newer than youve been seeing it haha)

Edit: actually he batted 4 last time (Root moved up to 3 then too!) mustve just felt like 3 haha

 

[TheDiablo]

Pope is a serious talent. I see he bats at 5 for Surrey, would you think he'd just slot in at 4 for England ? I think he's a better option than Denly. Interesting piece on captains that Sky are running. When Hussain and Fletcher were rebuilding they looked at charachteer as much as statistics and thats why the likes of Vaughan were picked. maybe they see something in Denly.

I stumbled on the Hussain doc/interview the other day. 'Captains Log' I think it was called. I found it fascinating

 

[fundy]

5 years ago or more you could argue that re Denly, less so since moving from opening to batting 5 or 6 in div 2 and spending as much time practising his filthy leg spin to get him some T20 franchise gigs!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I stumbled on the Hussain doc/interview the other day. 'Captains Log' I think it was called. I found it fascinating

I saw the David Gower one, it was on during a rain break. Really good stuff, highly recommended. The interviewer, Charles Coalville, did a lovely job of asking the right questions and then allowing Gower free reign to answer in full. He didn't hide from asking the hard questions and Gower gave wonderfully honest answers. I'll have to look up the Nasser Hussain one.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Not really one knock with Ollie Pope though is it? Averaging 65+ in the last 2 seasons, couple of big double hundreds and 6 FC tonnes at 21. Serious talent.

But completely out of his depth at Test level.

 

[Deleted member 3432]

5 years ago or more you could argue that re Denly, less so since moving from opening to batting 5 or 6 in div 2 and spending as much time practising his filthy leg spin to get him some T20 franchise gigs!

Denly must be a mate of Ed Smith, only logical reason I can see for his original selection.

A couple of years down the line of shuffling people in and out of the side and up and down the order we seem further away than ever from finding a functioning top 3.

At least Burns has demonstrated he is a fighter and can hang around long enough to put runs on the board 👍