Worlds gone mad

[Lord Tyrion]

Surely we are not basing what decisions are correct on what people think on Twitter 😱😱

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Surely we are not basing what decisions are correct on what people think on Twitter 😱😱

Who says it's the right decision?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Any decision.

 

[drdel]

Confused.

Ladies parading at a Darts venue, motorsport event, Cheerleaders are bad and demeaning.

Female dancers scantily clad on Strictly, and other 'light' entertainments shows, 'pop' concerts etc are Ok as is modelling ??

Why can't we treat all our fellow human beings with respect and civility?

 

[User20205]

Confused.

Ladies parading at a Darts venue, motorsport event, Cheerleaders are bad and demeaning.

Female dancers scantily clad on Strictly, and other 'light' entertainments shows, 'pop' concerts etc are Ok as is modelling ??

Why can't we treat all our fellow human beings with respect and civility?

I have no real opinion either way, but I can see the difference between the above, a beach etc etc
It’s not about the clothing or lack of, the darts girls are fully clothed. it’s about the purpose behind the existence of walk on girls, grid girls and the like. FD’s point about the only women in an official capacity @ a sporting event outside the Olympics being eye candy is spot on. It’s nothing to do with PC gone mad, nothing to do with banning anything. It’s about providing aspirational examples for young women. I get this, but it’s more easily provided by showing more women’s sport on TV outside the Olympics.

 

[Dasit]

I get this, but it’s more easily provided by showing more women’s sport on TV outside the Olympics.

Darts and snooker are mixed sports. Open to both men and women to compete in the world champs.

Just women don't tend to qualify, the PC line is gender is a social construct so not sure why it is 100% men, as both sexes should be equally capable of throwing darts at a board.

 

[User20205]

Darts and snooker are mixed sports. Open to both men and women to compete in the world champs.

Just women don't tend to qualify, the PC line is gender is a social construct so not sure why it is 100% men, as both sexes should be equally capable of throwing darts at a board.

Are darts & snooker even sports?
Listen I’m no great advocate of women’s sport but the point about it never being on is valid. If participation is fuelled partly by seeing sport on TV where do girls get their inspiration from? Maybe the ladies European tour or the RFU/FA should ensure their women’s product is free to air, and push for it to be shown. I’m all for equal rights for walk on boys, if it was a career choice, I’d apply :thup:

 

[Dasit]

Are darts & snooker even sports?
Listen I’m no great advocate of women’s sport but the point about it never being on is valid. If participation is fuelled partly by seeing sport on TV where do girls get their inspiration from? Maybe the ladies European tour or the RFU/FA should ensure their women’s product is free to air, and push for it to be shown. I’m all for equal rights for walk on boys, if it was a career choice, I’d apply :thup:

Is it politically correct to say that majority of women really don't like watching sport.

Should we manufacture supply, subsidise female sport on TV to pander to the idea that women will start participating?

 

[User20205]

Is it politically correct to say that majority of women really don't like watching sport.

Should we manufacture supply, subsidise female sport on TV to pander to the idea that women will start participating?

First bit, dunno, it’s maybe a generalisation.
I’d watch women’s golf & rugby if it was free to air. Either way, you fellas could have your walk on girls then as one argument against would be negated

 

[drdel]

I have no real opinion either way, but I can see the difference between the above, a beach etc etc
It’s not about the clothing or lack of, the darts girls are fully clothed. it’s about the purpose behind the existence of walk on girls, grid girls and the like. FD’s point about the only women in an official capacity @ a sporting event outside the Olympics being eye candy is spot on. It’s nothing to do with PC gone mad, nothing to do with banning anything. It’s about providing aspirational examples for young women. I get this, but it’s more easily provided by showing more women’s sport on TV outside the Olympics.

You do know that there are females at the top of F1.

 

[User20205]

You do know that there are females at the top of F1.

What actually racing, no don’t watch it. Who are they ?
I’m not advocating banning/removing anything. Just offering a contrary opinion. Ignore it if u like, and continue with the persecution complex

 

[ADB]

Personally I’m in favour of the removal of the F1 girls - there was no point in them being there. If the purpose is for the F1 owners to promote a sport with less gender stereotypes - let’s hope they actively encourage more female drivers, mechanics and technicians to back this stance up.

 

[IanM]

Is it politically correct to say that majority of women really don't like watching sport.

Should we manufacture supply, subsidise female sport on TV to pander to the idea that women will start participating?

Whether or not it’s politically correct, l am pretty sure it’s not mathematically correct.


The numbers of women watching at major sports events seems much higher than 30 years ago. Improved seating at football has helped, always been big numbers of women at rugby and cricket. I was at Augusta last time (plug..sorry) loads of women there. Went to Lodon Olympics, crowds were half and half.

Tv is plugging womens’ sports recently, after decades of ignoring it. So give it a break? Some is good, some isn’t. I do notice criticism of quality is usually met with howls of “sexist,” which ironically is the opposite of what it is!

Sports players and get criticised....it’s in the job description! (Listening to post footy phone in on radio...no punches being pulled!)

None of which matters in the debate about people’s role in a sports event being purely decorative! On writing it like that, it strikes me as daft! But, do I have the right to stop someone else doing it if they want? Probably not.

 

[Lazkir]

You do know that there are females at the top of F1.

Really? Not a massive F1 fan, but the only woman I knew that was close to breaking into the top echelon was that woman that died a few years ago. German Lady I think..

With a wife that I adore and two grown up girls, I'm massively pro equality. But not to the point that reason goes out of the window just to prove a point.

 

[IanM]

Really? Not a massive F1 fan, but the only woman I knew that was close to breaking into the top echelon was that woman that died a few years ago. German Lady I think.

I thought the point referred to Board Room/non driving. Plenty of senior women working in Woking with my mate

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Who knew that 2018 would be the year that women start to be come more oppressed..... take away their freedom of choice in an effort to be PC. How very sad.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Claire Williams, daughter of Frank is either in charge or number 2 at the Williams F1 team. I've seen her interviewed and she comes across as a hugely impressive individual. I suspect she is the most senior female currently in the sport although I don't know that as fact.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I thought the point referred to Board Room/non driving. Plenty of senior women working in Woking with my mate

Yes but to the vast majority of the viewing population of F1, apart from one or two commentators, the only women they see are there to just look pretty.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Who knew that 2018 would be the year that women start to be come more oppressed..... take away their freedom of choice in an effort to be PC. How very sad.

#mansplaining

 

[Hacker Khan]

Seen quite a few tweets about these decisions. Everyone saying they are daft, not seen a single tweet in favour.

#echochamber