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World Cup

I blame Van Gaal, he should have had Krul subbed on for the shoot out. ;)

Woohoo, Argentina Germany final......as predicted by moi. I'll be at the bookies on Monday morning for me winnings. :)
 
HomerJSimpson said:
So the Dutch have used all three subs and heading to penalties. No Krul coming on so it makes the decision against Costa Rica even stranger. Surely if Krul is bigger and better you'd want him in goal. Said it was mad at the time and think the decision not to repeat shows it wasn't tactical genius and more a random and bizzare thing to do
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Maybe you should drop a note to the ManU Board and suggest that you are a much better manager than van Gaal!

I'm sure you'd get an appropriate reaction!
 
HomerJSimpson said:
So the Dutch have used all three subs and heading to penalties. No Krul coming on so it makes the decision against Costa Rica even stranger. Surely if Krul is bigger and better you'd want him in goal. Said it was mad at the time and think the decision not to repeat shows it wasn't tactical genius and more a random and bizzare thing to do
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Maybe he should have saved a sub because we saw why the normal keeper hasn't saved a penalty in his whole pro career
 
Stories being released that LVG asked 2 players to take the 1st penalty and they refused, so fair play to Ron Vlaar for stepping up and not, as he's stated in the press, 'walked away from his responsibilities'. LVG states its critical to score the 1st goal and was disappointed 2 players that he felt could do that, didn't want to!
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Maybe he should have saved a sub because we saw why the normal keeper hasn't saved a penalty in his whole pro career
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He wanted to but the defender (martins indi) was in danger of getting sent off, de Jong was crocked and RVP exhausted and shouldn't reAlly have played.

Not unusual for stories to circulate about players bottling it in pens.
You should go with those that want it but to me both Vaar and snedjer looked like they were going to miss.
 
pbrown7582 said:
He wanted to but the defender (martins indi) was in danger of getting sent off, de Jong was crocked and RVP exhausted and shouldn't reAlly have played.

Not unusual for stories to circulate about players bottling it in pens.
You should go with those that want it but to me both Vaar and snedjer looked like they were going to miss.
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You're right he shouldn't have, he made Fred look good after last nights performance
 
It only goes to prove that to a large degree it's academic what or who the keeper is (and therefore the need to sub one ofr another) if the other players can't score. Seems strange that two Dutch players apparently didn't want to take them and left the first guy in a big old lurch. He never looked like scoring and then they were always on the back foot.

Argentina will have to show a lot more intent against the Germans or it could be awfully one sided
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Maybe he should have saved a sub because we saw why the normal keeper hasn't saved a penalty in his whole pro career
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That was my thinking. So new management tactic for critical games where a shoot out is possible - have a specialist penalty kick goalkeeper. Sorry to say that the Dutch lad looked pretty hopeless on pens - he had a good chance to save two of them.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
It only goes to prove that to a large degree it's academic what or who the keeper is (and therefore the need to sub one ofr another) if the other players can't score. Seems strange that two Dutch players apparently didn't want to take them and left the first guy in a big old lurch. He never looked like scoring and then they were always on the back foot.

Argentina will have to show a lot more intent against the Germans or it could be awfully one sided
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Still trying to gnaw that bone

After last night it's pretty clear to see why Van Gaal subbed his keeper as he was pretty awful and Krul would have certainly filled the goal better and if Van Gaal could have saved a sub I'm betting he would have.

If you have a keeper you know hasn't saved a penalty in his entire career then the pressure is added - if you have a keeper who you know has just won the previous shootout for you then the confidence increases a little.

The first penalty was poor the other was a great save

But Dutch keeper got nowhere near any maybe bar the last.

It just enforces how correct Van Gaals choices was in the previous game.

The final has potential to be a cracker because Germany will look to play and so will Argentina
 
Fish said:
Stories being released that LVG asked 2 players to take the 1st penalty and they refused, so fair play to Ron Vlaar for stepping up and not, as he's stated in the press, 'walked away from his responsibilities'. LVG states its critical to score the 1st goal and was disappointed 2 players that he felt could do that, didn't want to!
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Wonder who the two players where ?
 
Fish said:
Stories being released that LVG asked 2 players to take the 1st penalty and they refused, so fair play to Ron Vlaar for stepping up and not, as he's stated in the press, 'walked away from his responsibilities'. LVG states its critical to score the 1st goal and was disappointed 2 players that he felt could do that, didn't want to!
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Thiago Silva asked to be the last player to take a penalty for Brazil,poor from the Captain.
 
Pin-seeker said:
Find that hard to believe.
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I don't, I've seen photo's where he (LVG) was speaking to both Robben & Vlaar at the same time, LVG then puts his hands on both cheeks of Vlaar in a way of appreciation, I would bet at that time, Robben said no.

He bottled it
 
Fish said:
I don't, I've seen photo's where he (LVG) was speaking to both Robben & Vlaar at the same time, LVG then puts his hands on both cheeks of Vlaar in a way of appreciation, I would bet at that time, Robben said no.

He bottled it
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Yep I can it being those two - certainly wouldn't have been Kuyt ( the other senior player in the team )
 
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