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The point is which you clearly are missing is these teams are being brought through the system as team

Starting from under 15 all the way through to the main team they play the same system

When it comes to the Under 21 Tournaments all the best players go regardless. Our best U21's don't

The whole structure needs to change - these German players gained tournament experience from an early age - ours don't go.

but you yourself called for the youngsters to be thrown in. How many of them should have played with u21 before getting called up to England too early?
 
but you yourself called for the youngsters to be thrown in. How many of them should have played with u21 before getting called up to England too early?

What under 21 tournament was there this year ? There was one last year and all our top under 21's pulled out of it

Imagine if they had played and gained the expirence and then used that in this tournament - just like Germany and Spain etc
 
They did but my point remains the same. The FA will not have the balls to invest in such a long term and expensive policy

You're probably right. They could do worse than look at the German system in its entirety though, as could the sfa.
 
Don't confuse him with facts. We played Sterling, Sturridge Lallana, Henderson and others and they weren't good enough


Missing the point entirely

They weren't good enough because they had zero tournament experience

There was a U21 tournament last summer - how many of England's players went.
 
Superb from the men of the Fatherland.

Big Phil got it totally wrong tonight. Some gaffer.

Big Phil may have got it wrong but every single one of those Brazilian players needs to take a long hard look at himself. To a man they were an embarrassment to their country and to the world cup as a whole. They may have been missing Silva and Neymar but there are absolutely no excuses for a spineless performance like that.
 
Missing the point entirely

They weren't good enough because they had zero tournament experience

There was a U21 tournament last summer - how many of England's players went.

They have played U21 and most went through the WC campaign so they have experience. Don't buy it and as you ignore (cos it don't fit with your opinion) the FA will never sign up to such a long term and expensive blueprint.
 
A tad annoying it's all about Brazil getting beat rather than Germany winning on the beeb here.
 
They have played U21 and most went through the WC campaign so they have experience. Don't buy it and as you ignore (cos it don't fit with your opinion) the FA will never sign up to such a long term and expensive blueprint.


1 player from the Under 21 tournament for England last summer made the WC squad - Henderson

The blueprint is continually being proven to work - if England want to gain success then it's a blueprint they need to copy - no idea where you get it's cost being too much from ?! The English FA has bigger budgets that both Spain and Germany ! By a long way
 
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