World Cup

[Deleted member 15344]

I know you're only bear baiting, but, if Kruil wasn't in goal or anyone else for that matter. Would they have missed? Nope, these were't waddle penalties. They weren't missed, they were saved.

Dont confuse him with facts.

 

[Dodger]

I know you're only bear baiting, but, if Kruil wasn't in goal or anyone else for that matter. Would they have missed? Nope, these were't waddle penalties. They weren't missed, they were saved.

So if those penalty takers had chosen the other side?

They were missed due to bad choices.

That my people is fact.

 

[Slime]

So if those penalty takers had chosen the other side?

They were missed due to bad choices.

That my people is fact.

They may have missed ..................... more if's, but's and maybe's.
Hypothetical argument, let's stick to the facts.


Slime.

 

[c1973]

So if those penalty takers had chosen the other side?

They were missed due to bad choices.

That my people is fact.

If yer granny had bawz she'd be yer grampa.

The keeper saved the penalties, they weren't missed.

 

[richy]

So if those penalty takers had chosen the other side?

They were missed due to bad choices.

That my people is fact.

They were saved, they weren't missed.

That is FACT

 

[Astraeus]

Here's a thought. Missing penalties and penalties being saved aren't mutually exclusive...

 

[richy]

Actually your right. Why discuss because no matter what I think you're at the opposite end of the scale..not just on this. It worked but I still think it was a strange decision and one that coud just as easily backfired. I just find it funny that a keeper with just two PL saves to his name is brought on just because he's big. Hardly got any other attributes to bring to the table in terms of stopping penalties



The most accurate three words on here for a while

I though you said you were out...........AGAIN

 

[Rumpokid]

Lots of points about ifs, buts, and maybes regarding Holland v Costa Rica result..Van Gaal made a measured decision and it worked...For all we know,he has had his players blasting pens at Krull during training in readiness,for this..There was method in his madness.

 

[Blue in Munich]

As is diving, time wasting, swearing to name a few. Do they all get booked? I'm sure you've seen your own players to some of those things and not always complained?

No they don't and yes they should. As for Chelsea players doing it, now there you are wrong; I hate my own players doing it more than I hate the opposition doing it, and I'd love you to show my any posts where I've condoned anybody doing it.

 

[Blue in Munich]

There always has to be a first time and this was it.
Van Gaal had confidence enough and the courage of his convictions, he can't be criticised for that, surely.


Slime.

Because it worked, no he can't I wonder how we would have all be viewing it if Krul hadn't saved any or worse, let one through his legs to let Costa Rica through?

 

[Astraeus]

Because it worked, no he can't I wonder how we would have all be viewing it if Krul hadn't saved any or worse, let one through his legs to let Costa Rica through?

It was a calculated gamble but, as has been said before, Van Gaal did it with the firm belief that he picked the better man for the job. Yes questions would have been asked if Krul hadn't put his hand to any penalties and Van Gaal, as a manger, has to live and die by those sort of decisions. It is really no different to making any substitute and being open to criticism or praise if the substitute has an impact one way or the other.

 

[Golfmmad]

It was a great "Tactical" decision by Van Gaal to change keepers. As has already been said, he didn't tell the no.1 keeper so as it would not play on his mind - great man management.
Also, Holland scored all their penalties......including Dirk Kuyt's (sp), an unstoppable penalty, another good tactical choice from Van Gaal for picking him. I thought he was finished after leaving Liverpool, he played well and was pivotal in a lot of their attacking play.

It will be interesting to see his choices next season with Man Utd.

 

[Slime]

Because it worked, no he can't I wonder how we would have all be viewing it if Krul hadn't saved any or worse, let one through his legs to let Costa Rica through?

But that's the whole point ................. HE DID SAVE TWO PENALTIES thus 100% justifying Van Gaal's bizarre/lucky/unfair/brilliant/inspired decision.


Slime.

 

[Blue in Munich]

But that's the whole point ................. HE DID SAVE TWO PENALTIES thus 100% justifying Van Gaal's bizarre/lucky/unfair/brilliant/inspired decision.


Slime.

Yes, but had he not how would people have viewed it; a good tactical decision that didn't pay off or a poor decision because of the friction that it might cause between the keepers?

 

[Slime]

Yes, but had he not how would people have viewed it; a good tactical decision that didn't pay off or a poor decision because of the friction that it might cause between the keepers?

I'm sure they would have seen it as a very poor tactical decision, but, as he saved two penalties, it's seen as a tactical masterpiece.


Slime.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Fact – If Liverpool Phil said it was a stupid decision, hewould have been be rated for anti- Manu bias.
Fact – If Mourinho/Ferguson/Guardiola had done this, the vast majority would have been lauding this as genius.
Fact – it worked on the night, it was definitely a BRAVE/STUPID decision, but all dependent on if it worked. It did this time,save the “if’s” for another time.

I can understand Gaals decision.

Pepe Reina came with a great penalty saving record, rarelyseen it myself after 2007.

 

[Piece]

I would have fancied Chris Woods to do a better job than Peter Shilton in 1990! ;-)

 

[Papas1982]

No they don't and yes they should. As for Chelsea players doing it, now there you are wrong; I hate my own players doing it more than I hate the opposition doing it, and I'd love you to show my any posts where I've condoned anybody doing it.

Ive not said you have written a post condoning it, but by the same token you've not started any threads in regards to their Beauvoir at time either. Hand on heart are you telling me, if you're in the 90th minute of cl final next year and hazard takes a dive your first thoughts will be of hatred towards your players?

 

[Slime]

Ive not said you have written a post condoning it, but by the same token you've not started any threads in regards to their Beauvoir at time either. Hand on heart are you telling me, if you're in the 90th minute of cl final next year and hazard takes a dive your first thoughts will be of hatred towards your players?

And the relevance to the thread is .................................................................


Slime.


Beauvoir? Is that in France ....................... I think I've been there!

 

[Crazyface]

Germany / Brazil / Argentina / Holland. Do not back against this. They all know how to win these type of games and very rarely fail to do so. I think they were all a bit cautious last round as they all need to be in the quarters, it is a minimum expected, so they make sure of it. They can now resume playing properly, diving, play acting the lot, and will get though to the semis. The only shakey team is Argentina, but I think they will do an Italy from the 80's and move up a gear, maybe wrong on this, but everything else will be right.

Bit late.....but TOLD YOU !!!!!!