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Ive not said you have written a post condoning it, but by the same token you've not started any threads in regards to their Beauvoir at time either. Hand on heart are you telling me, if you're in the 90th minute of cl final next year and hazard takes a dive your first thoughts will be of hatred towards your players?

I won't be impressed if one of them takes a dive in the 1st, 90th or any minute inbetween at any stage in any competition because it devalues the victory as far as I am concerned. I wasn't brought up with a win at any cost mentality & I don't like that aspect of the game, or maybe I should say the business, because that is part of the issue.

As for not starting threads, maybe I haven't but as I actually go to the games and usually come home via the pub I tend to find it has already been started before I get to it. If you search you'll find posts with my name to it criticising Chelsea players, that I didn't actually start the thread is not that relevant to my mind.
 
I won't be impressed if one of them takes a dive in the 1st, 90th or any minute inbetween at any stage in any competition because it devalues the victory as far as I am concerned. I wasn't brought up with a win at any cost mentality & I don't like that aspect of the game, or maybe I should say the business, because that is part of the issue.

As for not starting threads, maybe I haven't but as I actually go to the games and usually come home via the pub I tend to find it has already been started before I get to it. If you search you'll find posts with my name to it criticising Chelsea players, that I didn't actually start the thread is not that relevant to my mind.

Well I tip my hat to you. Because whilst I wouldn't say I advocate the change in culture now and am happy that team England aren't generally anywhere near as bad as our counterparts for theatrics. I am happy to admit that I've been a hypocrite and criticised rivals whilst cheering my team for doing the same. I would want my team to go out with the intention to cheat (mourinhos Porto) but I would accept it if it bought my team glory (unlikely).

Fair or play to you for criticising your players, I do remember a cl game where the crowd turned on Drogba, but by and large he's still an idol and yet he probably dived as often if not more than he scored.

this isn't an attack on Chelsea btw people at all clubs do it.
 
Still find it strange hiw he played for two countries. Then again playing for the kings team probably helped lol

I always thought it was three countries; Argentina, Colombia and Spain. However, at the time he played for Colombia they were not recognised by FIFA.

One of my lasting memories was watching the European Cup Final when Real beat Eintracht Frankfurt 7-3 at Hampden. Di Stefano and Puskas were unbelievable that night.
 
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I always thought it was three countries; Argentina, Colombia and Spain. However, at the time he played for Colombia they were not recognised by FIFA.

One of my lasting memories was watching the European Cup Final when Real beat Eintracht Frankfurt 7-3 at Hampden. Di Stefano and Puskas were unbelievable that night.
As a wee 30 yr old I was only commentating on what I'd read about him on a FIFA site sometime ago, maybe why the Colombian appearances weren't mentioned. Either way it would appear that his was quite the career. Was it him that was almost bought by barca or was it puskas?
 
As a wee 30 yr old I was only commentating on what I'd read about him on a FIFA site sometime ago, maybe why the Colombian appearances weren't mentioned. Either way it would appear that his was quite the career. Was it him that was almost bought by barca or was it puskas?

Di Stefano was, I understand, going to Barca but the Spanish FA would not sanction the deal for some reason. This then added to the feeling amongst the Catalans of a conspiracy against "their" club.

BTW I wish I was a "wee 30 yr old" again.
 
Di Stefano was, I understand, going to Barca but the Spanish FA would not sanction the deal for some reason. This then added to the feeling amongst the Catalans of a conspiracy against "their" club.

BTW I wish I was a "wee 30 yr old" again.

From what I've read, real were the royal club of Spain, king at the time refused the deal.
The rest as they say is history. Whilst I'm glad to be a whipper snapper, I'd love to have seen some of the previous greats before we were diluted with so many "world class" players.
 
From what I've read, real were the royal club of Spain, king at the time refused the deal.
The rest as they say is history. Whilst I'm glad to be a whipper snapper, I'd love to have seen some of the previous greats before we were diluted with so many "world class" players.

Good point. England won the World Cup in '66 with only three, perhaps four, "world class" players in Banks, Moore & Bobby Charlton, also perhaps Ray Wilson.

In 2006 & 2010 we were apparently blessed with a Golden Generation of World Class players and yet got no further than quarter finals.

You don't think the media could have been kidding us on do you?

BTW Spain had a President in General Franco as Head of State at that time the monarchy was not reinstated until some time later.
 
Good point. England won the World Cup in '66 with only three, perhaps four, "world class" players in Banks, Moore & Bobby Charlton, also perhaps Ray Wilson.

In 2006 & 2010 we were apparently blessed with a Golden Generation of World Class players and yet got no further than quarter finals.

You don't think the media could have been kidding us on do you?

BTW Spain had a President in General Franco as Head of State at that time the monarchy was not reinstated until some time later.

well ill looks like I've been schooled lol.

Yeah ah I know that our media big our players up, but worldwide it seems there are hundreds of world lass players?
 
well ill looks like I've been schooled lol.

Yeah ah I know that our media big our players up, but worldwide it seems there are hundreds of world lass players?

Well the game has become more global with good players emerging from pretty well everywhere.

Back in '66 the only player from Africa that anyone really knew was Eusebio who, coming from Mozambique, played for Portugal and the North Koreans provided some curiosity value (and the odd upset) from Asia. Central America was overshadowed even more by South America than it is today.

As to world-class I suppose it depends upon your definition. To me it would be those players that would be in a team (or squad) selected to represent The World.

So if you don't don't make the squad; sorry, in my eyes at least, you maybe a very good player but you are not world class.

P.S. My apologies I did not mean to be all schoolmasterly in my previous post.
 
Well the game has become more global with good players emerging from pretty well everywhere.

Back in '66 the only player from Africa that anyone really knew was Eusebio who, coming from Mozambique, played for Portugal and the North Koreans provided some curiosity value (and the odd upset) from Asia. Central America was overshadowed even more by South America than it is today.

As to world-class I suppose it depends upon your definition. To me it would be those players that would be in a team (or squad) selected to represent The World.

So if you don't don't make the squad; sorry, in my eyes at least, you maybe a very good player but you are not world class.

P.S. My apologies I did not mean to be all schoolmasterly in my previous post.

Wasn't anything wrong with your last post, it's a subject that interesting and I just didn't know all the info.

I agree terms world class, best player in world in position is world class then step down. So currently I'd have say sutures, Ronaldo, Messi as the world class attack. Next level is likes of Falcao and ibfahimivic, agreed followed by likes of Rooney, rvp etc
 
Anyone else feeling uncomfortable about actually wanting Germany to win a football match? I suppose I could look at it as wanting Brazil to lose :D
 
A very average Brazil side without their two best players managed by one of the most tactically inept arrogant managers about need a miracle unfortunately this is football so they may get one. You get the feeling FIFA will do all they can to help.


Come on Germany come on Özil come on BFG come on poldi

Lets upset FIFA
 
Anyone else feeling uncomfortable about actually wanting Germany to win a football match? I suppose I could look at it as wanting Brazil to lose :D

Yes and the trouble is I am not very keen on either of the two other semi-finalists.

Reinstate Costa Rica and Colombia, I say.
 
A very average Brazil side without their two best players managed by one of the most tactically inept arrogant managers about need a miracle unfortunately this is football so they may get one. You get the feeling FIFA will do all they can to help.


Come on Germany come on Özil come on BFG come on poldi

Lets upset FIFA

yeah ah he's useless. Only won 1 World Cup already. Plus taken Portugal to wc semi and euro final.

You are priceless!
 
A very average Brazil side without their two best players managed by one of the most tactically inept arrogant managers about need a miracle unfortunately this is football so they may get one. You get the feeling FIFA will do all they can to help.


Come on Germany come on Özil come on BFG come on poldi

Lets upset FIFA
 
A very average Brazil side without their two best players managed by one of the most tactically inept arrogant managers about need a miracle unfortunately this is football so they may get one. You get the feeling FIFA will do all they can to help.


Come on Germany come on Özil come on BFG come on poldi

Lets upset FIFA

Hasn't that manager won the World Cup and Conf Cup as well as taking Portugal to a final and a semi final ?
 
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