Withdrawing from comps...

I have followed this thread with some interest.
As an active full member of a private members club aged 75 I try and have consideration for my fellow members ,I think Louise did all that was necessary to fulfil her obligations to her comps organiser and fellow players.
However it is ,in my opinion,symptomatic of todays attitudes that it is prevalent just to cross off or fail to show up for a tee time in comps when it is only polite to let playing partners know.
I therefore think her comps sec is wrong but for the right reasons.
It just goes to show that "the suits,the blazers and the old farts etc"that are often quoted on here exist everywhere,!
Dewsweeper
 
Amanda, I think I'd just leave it, if someone asks you for your letter I'd say that I'd be happy to write a letter if they would put the request in writing with their reasons!
 
As an ex comp sec myself, I think that some of the people on here should try doing the job. It involves putting out entry sheets several weeks in advance, arranging a draw, posting the draw sheet in good time so that members know their starting times, and feeding in reserves (if any) as players withdraw. Last minute withdrawals are a particular problem. Then there are all the knockout competitions to administer. It's frankly a thankless task! :mmm:
 
delc said:
As an ex comp sec myself, I think that some of the people on here should try doing the job. It involves putting out entry sheets several weeks in advance, arranging a draw, posting the draw sheet in good time so that members know their starting times, and feeding in reserves (if any) as players withdraw. Last minute withdrawals are a particular problem. Then there are all the knockout competitions to administer. It's frankly a thankless task! :mmm:
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well dont do it!

Anyone taking on the task knows the spec.

.....and lets say someone has a family or work crisis, does getting a letter a few days later change the outcome?
 
delc said:
As an ex comp sec myself, I think that some of the people on here should try doing the job. It involves putting out entry sheets several weeks in advance, arranging a draw, posting the draw sheet in good time so that members know their starting times, and feeding in reserves (if any) as players withdraw. Last minute withdrawals are a particular problem. Then there are all the knockout competitions to administer. It's frankly a thankless task! :mmm:
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And everyone who's ever organised anything knows that there is likely to be sickness, crisis and problems that mean there will be no shows. If people do what Amanda did and give several days notice, then that's as good as it gets for the organiser, so, if a comps secretary can't live with that then they shouldn't be doing the job!
 
I agree it can be a thankless task and withdrawls are never ideal but sometimes unavoidable. I do not think anyone disagrees that a withdrawl as soon as you know you cannot enter should be the norm as well as a polite apology. The issue is the request to explain yourself in writing. Again, anyone who withdraws frequently or at the last minute could be asked for an explanation but there should never be tbe need for a letter explaining your actions unless the club are considering disciplinary action and the letter is to be put in front of the committee to explain mitigating circumstance
 
In general if someone strikes their name off at least a day before the comp its no big deal, often there are reserves waiting to jump in. It's poor if people just don't turn up on the day without ringing in and many clubs will give you a two or three match ban for this.

I work in a Pro Shop and manage the start sheet on the day of many comps, its not too difficult to shift people up or down a bit to keep things moving.
 
delc said:
Sorry, but I have to disagree with most of the comments on here. If you enter a drawn competition with reserved tee times, you should make every effort to turn up, especially if it's a team competition. Otherwise trying to reorganise things on the day becomes a nightmare for comp secs or club administrators, and players may be left without playing partners. If you are not well organised enough to do this, stick to roll-ups on the day. :)
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Are you not reading the other comments. The field isn't fully booked so no one is missing out. She has given four days notice and so plenty of time for the comp sec to juggle the first pair as a two ball and put one of the first group in as a three to take her place. It isn't a rule on the mens section and this a case of the womens committee trying to wield whatever power they have and making a proverbial mountain out of a molehill.

I suggest if you're going to pass comment, you avail yourself of the full facts :thup:
 
CMAC said:
well dont do it!

Anyone taking on the task knows the spec.

.....and lets say someone has a family or work crisis, does getting a letter a few days later change the outcome?
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Doesn't have to be a letter. In the 21st Century a quick phone call, a text message or a short email would suffice as far as I am concerned! :)
 
delc said:
Sorry, but I have to disagree with most of the comments on here. If you enter a drawn competition with reserved tee times, you should make every effort to turn up, especially if it's a team competition. Otherwise trying to reorganise things on the day becomes a nightmare for comp secs or club administrators, and players may be left without playing partners. If you are not well organised enough to do this, stick to roll-ups on the day. :)
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It was not a team comp, it was a Stableford, played in 3 balls.
She gave three+ days notice.

delc said:
At least the lady concerned gave a reasonable amount of notice. It's people who withdraw at the last moment because they don't like the look of the weather or whatever that annoy me. Generally there are no sanctions against members who do this at my present club, but anybody who did this too often at my previous club was liable to be banned from club competitions for a period. Obviously you have to accept that people sometimes get ill, or have have family crises to deal with. Maybe a polite note to the committee explaining the reasons will not go amiss. :)
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I thought there were sanctions for no-show for men's weekend comps at BPGC.
The weekday seniors may be more relaxed about it
 
North Mimms said:
It was not a team comp, it was a Stableford, played in 3 balls.
She gave three+ days notice.
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Er, you still (ideally) need playing groups with three players in them. :)

North Mimms said:
I thought there were sanctions for no-show for men's weekend comps at BPGC.
The weekday seniors may be more relaxed about it
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Doesn't seem to be very strictly enforced. You may get a letter from the committee after a series of no shows. :)
 
AmandaJR said:
We have a comp tomorrow (individual stableford) which I signed up for but realised on Wed morning I would be unable to play. I advised the comps secretary and have been told I must write a letter to the ladies committee explaining my actions...

Your thoughts?
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delc said:
I believe the clue is in the words "3-ball Stableford"! :)
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no i think the clue is in the OP where Amanda states Individual stableford
 
delc said:
I believe the clue is in the words "3-ball Stableford"! :)
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That's not what Amanda wrote.
I asked if they played in 2 or 3 balls.

She replied 3- obviously if like Homer's Club, they are only allowed to play as a 2, amanda could have left someone without a partner.
We usually play in 3 balls, but there is no reason why we can't play as a two if required
 
Write to them explaining simply you will be unable to attend as you have other commitments then in the second paragraph ask if you may now be excused as you need the lavatory..
 
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