tsped83
Tour Winner
Utter tosh! Just cross your name off, life gets in the way. A LOT of things are more important than golf. A letter to explain your actions is insulting. Tell them to ram it.
Withdrawing from comps...
- Thread starter AmandaJR
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Don't get me wrong, I think its just plain stupid for all sorts of reasons. But sometimes change can only take place if its done 'gently.' Work with them, if they'll listen, otherwise stuff 'em.
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
North Mimms
Tour Winner
At my club, withdrawing from a ladies comp up to the day before is no problem.
Withdrawing on the day could theoretically cause a roblem, but a few years ago we introduced a rota that a committee member is on duty when we are going out to play and she can jiggle things about to ensure everyone had a partner.
No sanctions unless someone becomes a serial drop out.
The men's side is stricter about drop- outs, mainly because tee times are at a premium at weekends eesp during the winter.
I believe no shows on the day get a 2 comp ban, which in fairness also applies to any women who play weekend comps.
but if you told them wednesday that you coulnd't play on a Sunday? OTT reaction.
Out if interest, do you play in 2 or 3 balls for stableford?
Withdrawing on the day could theoretically cause a roblem, but a few years ago we introduced a rota that a committee member is on duty when we are going out to play and she can jiggle things about to ensure everyone had a partner.
No sanctions unless someone becomes a serial drop out.
The men's side is stricter about drop- outs, mainly because tee times are at a premium at weekends eesp during the winter.
I believe no shows on the day get a 2 comp ban, which in fairness also applies to any women who play weekend comps.
but if you told them wednesday that you coulnd't play on a Sunday? OTT reaction.
Out if interest, do you play in 2 or 3 balls for stableford?
AmandaJR
Money List Winner
Played in 3 balls. Not usually over subscribed for ladies comps and this is no exception. I think the draw was done on Wed and I was out in the 2nd group. Would have thought making the 1st group a 2 ball would have been easy enough to do. I hate late minute drop outs but feel I gave ample notice of my need to withdraw...just don't feel I should have to explain my reasons in writing.
rosecott
Money List Winner
Duncan, I may have misunderstood Amanda's first post but I assumed that she informed the Ladies comp sec around Wednesday when she realised she couldn't play. If that was the case then I feel she gave plenty of notice and should feel under no obligation to give her reasons for withdrawing. I agree that late withdrawals can present clubs with problems but there should be enough flexibility to deal with them. The club should also have a system to identify and deal with repeat "late withdrawal" offenders.
AmandaJR
Money List Winner
You're correct Jim - advised on Wed unable to play Sun.
North Mimms
Tour Winner
If you play in 3 balls, you have not let anyone down.
We have the "policy" that if you have to withdraw after start sheet is published, that you have to inform the pro shop, and your playing partners. The latter is just common courtesy.
Rather than sending a letter, send a email, apologising for dropping out and cite "personal reasons" with no further details.
It is no-ones business if your personal reasons are your Granny's funeral or a last minute shoe sale.
SVB
Challenge Tour Pro
I really dont get this. You have got in touch and given them quite a bit of notice. So, FC and start sheet ok.
What is the point of the letter over and above this - will your reasons be assessed and perhaps your 'application' to not play declided and a summons issues to appear at the first tee? WTF do they thing they are doing?
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What is the point of the letter over and above this - will your reasons be assessed and perhaps your 'application' to not play declided and a summons issues to appear at the first tee? WTF do they thing they are doing?
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Jon321
Tour Rookie
Exactly that. The club I've joined are so relaxed and friendly. None of this moaning if you have tee'd off abit early or late in a comp. most of the people I play with just rock up on comp days and go out with whoever is ready to go.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
This highlights that the are certain number of people at certain clubs who's heads are so far up their own backsides that they have lost all sense of reality.
They should be taken out to the furthest part of the course, or in the case of Amanda's course somewhere near the smelly bit, and simply shot....
They should be taken out to the furthest part of the course, or in the case of Amanda's course somewhere near the smelly bit, and simply shot....
tsped83
Tour Winner
Amen brother!
Foxholer
Blackballed
I've certainly encountered some candidates for this - and most of them have been high up in the Ladies clique!
virtuocity
Tour Winner
Can't believe you sometimes Amanda. Boooo you. Boooo. Hang your head in shame etc etc etc.
Clubs really don't get that their members are also customers.
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
Jim
I was at pains to highlight that my post focused on the principles - if we agree that in the case of someone simply not turning up the request is valid then everything else becomes relative to individual circumstances. Where you draw the line is another completely separate matter, and I'm sure that if we sat down over a glass or two we would have little difficulty agreeing a detailed process and timings - but when I responded it was to the larger question and responses at that time.
AmandaJR
Money List Winner
I agree Duncan there are principles and today played in a pairs comp where there was a late drop-out from the 3rd group out. Playing at 9.30 and a phone call to the pro shop this morning to withdraw. That's leaving it late AND letting a partner down - still not sure a letter explaining their reasons would be an acceptable response rather than a quiet word OR a note made in case said individual is a repeat offender.
As ever there is no black and white and I posted on here to gauge reaction to assess if I was over reacting...
As ever there is no black and white and I posted on here to gauge reaction to assess if I was over reacting...
rosecott
Money List Winner
Agreed, but I don't do "a glass or two"!!!
Sorry, but I have to disagree with most of the comments on here. If you enter a drawn competition with reserved tee times, you should make every effort to turn up, especially if it's a team competition. Otherwise trying to reorganise things on the day becomes a nightmare for comp secs or club administrators, and players may be left without playing partners. If you are not well organised enough to do this, stick to roll-ups on the day. 
rosecott
Money List Winner
Sorry, but I have to disagree with most of the comments on here. If you enter a drawn competition with reserved tee times, you should make every effort to turn up, especially if it's a team competition. Otherwise trying to reorganise things on the day becomes a nightmare for comp secs or club administrators, and players may be left without playing partners. If you are not well organised enough to do this, stick to roll-ups on the day.
Yet another failure to understand what has been posted. Amanda gave several days notice of withdrawal from the comp. If a club cannot handle the impact so far in advance of the comp, then the club needs some new organisers.
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At least the lady concerned gave a reasonable amount of notice. It's people who withdraw at the last moment because they don't like the look of the weather or whatever that annoy me. Generally there are no sanctions against members who do this at my present club, but anybody who did this too often at my previous club was liable to be banned from club competitions for a period. Obviously you have to accept that people sometimes get ill, or have have family crises to deal with. Maybe a polite note to the committee explaining the reasons will not go amiss.
