Which is my provisional?

[DaveyG]

Cheers Rosecott and everyone for their responce :-D

 

[Blue in Munich]

Geek alert re marking balls!

Get 3 different coloured pens and mark each ball from a sleeve with a different colour.

3 colours x 4 numbers = every ball from a new box is marked differently.

Sorry, carry on.

If it makes you feel any better you're not the only one that does this….

 

[hamshanker]

Or as i do carry couple yellow balls with your markings and use them as provisional balls no arguements then about make or numbers being same as original and youll never lose them as provisionals are always down the middle

 

[ManinBlack]

You are getting mixed up with the situation where the two balls belong to different players neither of whom can identify his own ball. Here the situation is two balls belonging to the same player - the original and the provisional.

You're right. I've learned something!

 

[delc]

Hi Guys,

I have started to mark my balls with a putting line and colouring in the number with a black dot. All of the balls now look identical and I wondered what would happen if I teed off and hit it left into the tree's... I then call a provisional and play near enough the exact same shot.... When we walk up I find both of them a yard apart and cant tell which was the first or second?

You could say don't cover the number on the ball but also I could have used the same sleeve to hit both which would mean they again couldn't be told apart.

What would happen in this situation? What ball would I play?

Best to use a different type, or differently numbered or marked ball as your provisional ball (unless you are playing under the one ball local rule). If you do happen to use two identically marked balls and both the original and the provisional are found in bounds and you can't distinguish between them, you select one and assume it to be provisional, so add a stroke and distance penalty. There is an exception for water hazards. See Decision 27/11, which has already been copied onto this thread (post #6).

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Best to use a different type, or differently numbered or marked ball as your provisional ball (unless you are playing under the one ball local rule). If you do happen to use two identically marked balls and both the original and the provisional are found in bounds and you can't distinguish between them, you select one and assume it to be provisional, so add a stroke and distance penalty. There is an exception for water hazards. See decision 27/11, which has already been copied onto this thread.

So basically you have just posted what everyone has already said ?

 

[rosecott]

Best to use a different type, or differently numbered or marked ball as your provisional ball (unless you are playing under the one ball local rule). If you do happen to use two identically marked balls and both the original and the provisional are found in bounds and you can't distinguish between them, you select one and assume it to be provisional, so add a stroke and distance penalty. There is an exception for water hazards. See Decision 27/11, which has already been copied onto this thread (post #6).

So basically you have just posted what everyone has already said ?

Yes, but he was remarkably, and unusually, brief.

 

[Colin L]

Best to use a different type, or differently numbered or marked ball as your provisional ball (unless you are playing under the one ball local rule). If you do happen to use two identically marked balls and both the original and the provisional are found in bounds and you can't distinguish between them, you select one and assume it to be provisional, so add a stroke and distance penalty. There is an exception for water hazards. See Decision 27/11, which has already been copied onto this thread (post #6).

Del, you're at your L/Cpl Jones trick again.

But if you are going to come in after a query has been well answered, do try to learn from what has been said and be accurate. D 27/11 explains the solutions to various situations involving indistinguishable original and provisional balls. These situations include two possibilities regarding a water hazard. There is no "exception" to anything - just two solutions to two different WH situations which impeccably follow the logic of the whole Decision.

 

[MadAdey]

Sort of a follow on from what Gary said. I always buy by the dozen so I get the box and mix each sleeve up to make sure each sleeve has 3 different numbers in, I too colour the numbers in but do it in pink. But now I always have access to a different numbered ball.

 

[backwoodsman]

Sort of a follow on from what Gary said. I always buy by the dozen so I get the box and mix each sleeve up to make sure each sleeve has 3 different numbers in, I too colour the numbers in but do it in pink. But now I always have access to a different numbered ball.

This ^^^^

If you mix the balls into the correct order, then use one sleeve at a time, you only need know the number of the current ball. Whatever it is, the "other" will always be different. Be careful about the order, you use sleeves and no two consecutive balls will ever have the same number.

Nothing wrong with being methodical i

 

[ColchesterFC]

Geek alert re marking balls!

Get 3 different coloured pens and mark each ball from a sleeve with a different colour.

3 colours x 4 numbers = every ball from a new box is marked differently.

Sorry, carry on.

I'm glad I'm not the only one, but only use two colours. I have identical markings on my ball. A line to help me on the green and then my initials in 3 places on the ball. Always have two balls in my pocket - my original ball with a red sharpie and my provisional with a blue sharpie. That way there's no confusion and it doesn't matter what number is on the ball.

 

[delc]

This ^^^^

If you mix the balls into the correct order, then use one sleeve at a time, you only need know the number of the current ball. Whatever it is, the "other" will always be different. Be careful about the order, you use sleeves and no two consecutive balls will ever have the same number.

Nothing wrong with being methodical i

Problem is that if you buy a sleeve or box of balls, they usually all have the same number on them. I don't know why the makers can't mix them? Not really a problem for me, because I usually have a variety of makes of pick up balls in my bag that I can use as provisionals, but if you only use one make and type of ball, or are playing under the 'one ball' rule, it could be. That only leaves using different felt tip markings to identify them.

 

[delc]

Del, you're at your L/Cpl Jones trick again.

But if you are going to come in after a query has been well answered, do try to learn from what has been said and be accurate. D 27/11 explains the solutions to various situations involving indistinguishable original and provisional balls. These situations include two possibilities regarding a water hazard. There is no "exception" to anything - just two solutions to two different WH situations which impeccably follow the logic of the whole Decision.

If both balls are found in a water hazard, then the original ball is 'lost' in the water hazard due to the inability of identifying it, so you proceed under Rule 26-1 just as if you had put your original ball in there and not played a provisional. If it is known or virtually certain that your ball has gone into a water hazard, you don't have to find it (as in the case of deep water).

 

[Foxholer]

Del, you're at your L/Cpl Jones trick again.

But if you are going to come in after a query has been well answered, do try to learn from what has been said and be accurate. D...

If both balls....

Not for the first time, you completely missed the point and/or got things wrong!

Even your previous post - about numbers on balls - has a glaring blunder!

 

[delc]

Not for the first time, you completely missed the point and/or got things wrong!

Even your previous post - about numbers on balls - has a glaring blunder!

Why?

In the event of playing two identical balls as original and provisional into the same general area. if you only find one, or one in bounds, you have to assume it's the provisional. If you find both in bounds you chose one and continue with that as the provisional. The only exception is if both balls are found in a water hazard, as I explained.

Every time I buy a sleeve of balls, they all seem to have the same number stamped on them! :mmm:

 

[Foxholer]

Why?

In the event of playing two identical balls as original and provisional into the same general area. if you only find one, or one in bounds, you have to assume it's the provisional. If you find both in bounds you chose one and continue with that as the provisional. The only exception is if both balls are found in a water hazard, as I explained.
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Aaaaarrrgh

You've done it again! :rant: And you don't seem to learn!

ColinL mentioned - in the thread about your 'L/C Jones' style that for WH it wasn't an 'exception', merely a different situation!

Why?

Every time I buy a sleeve of balls, they all seem to have the same number stamped on them! :mmm:

True enough.

But try checking a different sleeve from the same box! Here's your 'original post with the blunder...

Problem is that if you buy a sleeve or box of balls, they usually all have the same number on them....

You'd be doing everyone a favour if you stayed out of other folks threads in 'Rules'! :sbox:

 

[delc]

True enough. But try checking a different sleeve from the same box! Here's your 'original post with the blunder...

I have bought boxes of balls where they all have the same number!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Where these on special offer like the Titliest 66 recently ?

 

[Val]

I have bought boxes of balls where they all have the same number!

If you are being pedantic, a box, ie a box of 3 commonly known as a sleeve will all have the same number.

Rarely if ever will a box of a dozen with 4 sleeves have the same number

 

[delc]

Where these on special offer like the Titliest 66 recently ?

From memory, I think they were Top Flite distance balls.