When do you think you will next play golf?

[Deleted member 3432]

I don’t believe it will be as bad as people are suggesting - the two days before the lockdown we had a mix of people who ignored the social distancing but in the main most understood it

I suspect most club will either put a tee time in place ( for the ones that don’t normally have them ) or allow the members to exert common sense and arrange themselves to ensure they adhere to any restrictions that are put in place.

There will prob be a mad rush for the first weekend but then it will level itself out , members club will have to plea to the members to act as the marshalls and swindles organisers will need to be the ones to ensure their guys stick to the guidelines etc

4 balls will be fine - can easily happen and have social distancing , same with rolling up to the tee - get lines in place , stay by car until your turn etc etc

I understand at the moment it seems to be the natural way to be negative about the situation and expect the worst but 99% of us are all people with common sense and can act responsibly.

In 4 weeks I reckon we will be back on the course and the moans will be about the 3 putts and slices etc etc and by June societies will be back and July the clubhouse will be fully open.

As the average age of a golf club member is over 60, how do clubs manage this 'high risk' group?

 

[User20205]

As the average age of a golf club member is over 60, how do clubs manage this 'high risk' group?

Why can’t the ‘high risk’ groups manage themselves?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

As the average age of a golf club member is over 60, how do clubs manage this 'high risk' group?

Why should clubs have to manage them ? If anyone is deemed to be in the high risk group then surely it’s their responsibility to manage themselves. People will have a choice at the end of the day - but all in that high risk group will still have another 6-7 weeks of self isolating

 

[Deleted member 3432]

Why should clubs have to manage them ? If anyone is deemed to be in the high risk group then surely it’s their responsibility to manage themselves. People will have a choice at the end of the day - but all in that high risk group will still have another 6-7 weeks of self isolating

Maybe thats why we shouldn't be playing so soon, to save people from themselves?

 

[Fish]

Why can’t the ‘high risk’ groups manage themselves?

Because some, not all, will be stubborn know-it-all old gits (clubs are full of them) who will simply ignore any recommendations!

if it’s self policing, who’s going to tell them they’re not allowed on the course and should go home?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Maybe thats why we shouldn't be playing so soon, to save people from themselves?

So we restrict 100% because the minority can’t look after themselves?

The guidelines now allow people to drive for physical activity- that was a big barrier in place for people going to play golf and indeed other sports - if golf does start after the next three weeks then it will be under social guidelines, we are all capable of doing that , if people fail to follow it then clubs will no doubt be required to apply restrictions on those single people.

 

[Fish]

Why should clubs have to manage them ? If anyone is deemed to be in the high risk group then surely it’s their responsibility to manage themselves. People will have a choice at the end of the day - but all in that high risk group will still have another 6-7 weeks of self isolating

Because if a club is open, it has a duty of care to its other members and staff, even if only greenkeepers are in attendance!

 

[User20205]

Because some, not all, will be stubborn know-it-all old gits (clubs are full of them) who will simply ignore any recommendations!

if it’s self policing, who’s going to tell them they’re not allowed on the course and should go home?

Sometimes people have to take personal responsibility. I can’t hold their hands when they cross the road also.
If here is any kind of barometer, most ‘high risk’ seem to be risk averse.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Because if a club is open, it has a duty of care to its other members and staff, even if only greenkeepers are in attendance!

And that duty of care will be to request people apply any social distancing restrictions that apply and request that anyone in the high risk group not attend ( because they were requested to self isolate for 12 weeks ) . You can’t hold everyones hand - personal responsibility has to come into it along with common sense.

 

[Fish]

And that duty of care will be to request people apply any social distancing restrictions that apply and request that anyone in the high risk group not attend ( because they were requested to self isolate for 12 weeks ) . You can’t hold everyones hand - personal responsibility has to come into it along with common sense.

But if the clubhouse and pro shop won’t be open, it’s alright saying you can’t hold anyone’s hand, but all clubs have these seniors who will disregard guidelines at the best of times, so who will enforce the ‘law’, if that’s what it is in the grande scheme of things!

Will clubs have to clearly state, that 70+ (example age, not sure what exactly it is), that they are not allowed at the club or on course, and what the ramifications are should they ignore this request/order!

 

[User20205]

But if the clubhouse and pro shop won’t be open, it’s alright saying you can’t hold anyone’s hand, but all clubs have these seniors who will disregard guidelines at the best of times, so who will enforce the ‘law’, if that’s what it is in the grande scheme of things!

Will clubs have to clearly state, that 70+ (example age, not sure what exactly it is), that they are not allowed at the club or on course, and what the ramifications are should they ignore this request/order!

Natural selection? ?? When lockdown is lifted there will have to be some element of self policing. If you’re high risk, you’ll have to assess those risks on a personal level. What you say about golf could be extrapolated into everything. We can’t exist long term just going to work & the shop, people won’t put up with it for long, especially those who perceive a low risk

 

[Jacko_G]

Why should clubs have to manage them ? If anyone is deemed to be in the high risk group then surely it’s their responsibility to manage themselves. People will have a choice at the end of the day - but all in that high risk group will still have another 6-7 weeks of self isolating

Why should supermarkets manage them? Why should health care manage them?

They should manage then as they are members of your club and as such should be integrated into any plans going forward. They will have been paying club fees for years prior to us - so yes it's imperative that they are "managed" and treated as equals in any decision to reopen the courses.

Not asking for you or anyone else to agree but that's my take.

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[User20205]

In most cases I tend to agree with this attitude. However this isn't just people making themselves ill with an unhealthy diet (for example). In a global pandemic people ignoring the rules aren't just risking themselves, their actions impact us all.

Agree to a degree, I’m talking post lockdown. After any NHS peak is avoided, people are gonna have to take personal responsibility.
Technology may help, with temperature testing, app screening etc but ultimately, unless we wait for a vaccine, people are gonna get let out. A balance will have to be made between ‘normal’ life and protection of any risk groups. An important aspect to that will be personal responsibility/risk assessment.
The alternative is go to work (some work), go home! Doesn’t sound much fun long term

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But if the clubhouse and pro shop won’t be open, it’s alright saying you can’t hold anyone’s hand, but all clubs have these seniors who will disregard guidelines at the best of times, so who will enforce the ‘law’, if that’s what it is in the grande scheme of things!

Will clubs have to clearly state, that 70+ (example age, not sure what exactly it is), that they are not allowed at the club or on course, and what the ramifications are should they ignore this request/order!

Clubs will expect people to self police - that’s a big thing in golf already

People will be expected to social distance themselves - if they are believed to be in the high risk category then they will have had their government guidelines already and be asked to follow them. It will be their responsibility to look after their well being - clubs won’t be and shouldnt make any special dispensation for anyone.

Cannot and shouldn’t babysit everyone - look after yourself and if everyone did that then things will be fine

 

[Mick68]

Because some, not all, will be stubborn know-it-all old gits (clubs are full of them) who will simply ignore any recommendations!

if it’s self policing, who’s going to tell them they’re not allowed on the course and should go home?

The over 70s and people with a pre-existing illness are only supposed to be socially distancing but a bit more strictly than the rest of us. They don't have to stay indoors for 12 wks. It's only those at very high risk who are shielding - that's those who have had transplants, have cancer, on certain medications, severe heart/lung disease etc. The older guys can play but should just be a bit more strict with their social distancing. I think they would now comply more with the rules as most of them will know someone who has died and will be taking it more seriously than pre-lockdown - as will everyone. I really don't think it will need policing now, I think attitudes have changed.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Agree to a degree, I’m talking post lockdown. After any NHS peak is avoided, people are gonna have to take personal responsibility.
Technology may help, with temperature testing, app screening etc but ultimately, unless we wait for a vaccine, people are gonna get let out. A balance will have to be made between ‘normal’ life and protection of any risk groups. An important aspect to that will be personal responsibility/risk assessment.
The alternative is go to work (some work), go home! Doesn’t sound much fun long term

My BiL lives out in China, about an hour from Shanghai. He no longer needs to check his temperature before going outside, doesn't have to fill in the app he previously had to before leaving his apartment. Most shops etc have heat checkers that you walk through, no reason to remove them, but otherwise they are largely back to normal life. If it can happen there it will happen here too. It just doesn't seem like we will get back to normal life soon because we are right in the midst of it.

 

[Depreston]

More chance of the government opening up courses to the public for exercise than us getting out soon

 

[upsidedown]

Apparently the government have issued new guidelines to the Police under The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020 on ‘What constitutes a reasonable excuse to leave the place where you live’
It is now saying ‘exercising more than once a day – the only relevant considerable is whether repeated exercise on the same day can be considered a ‘reasonable excuse’ for leaving home. In the commentary they are now saying ‘Exercise can come in many forms, including walking. Exercise must involve movement, but it is acceptable for a person to stop for a break in exercise. However, a very short period of ‘exercise’ to excuse a long period of inactivity may mean that the person is not engaged in ‘exercise’ but in fact in something else. It is lawful to drive for exercise. By driving to exercise, the exercise must be longer than the drive.
Who knows , maybe a start . Chatting to our HGK today and they nipped down the greens yesterday with rain being forecast so only a week away for the greens if we do open

 

[Imurg]

Judging by the irritating pictures of highly manicured golf courses jamming up social media it strikes me that some courses seem to be doing more than the bare minimum required to maintain the course......

 

[USER1999]

Ours needed rain, it got some last night. From a distance, it looks lovely, but go walk on it, and grass coverage is still pretty scrappy.

That said, someone couldn't wait, there were fresh divots on the 12th fairway.