When do you think you will next play golf?

[Mel Smooth]

No chance!

Edit: Just seen where you are, so I gather your referring to Spain only?

Would still be surprised though!

Yes, Spain.
Obviously the UK will be behind.
We've had a severe lockdown for the last two weeks, and a tighter lockdown anyway than the UK.

I suspect we may have a two week extension, but certainly expect restrictions to be lifted (or eased) by mid may.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Still can't see any end before June based on what I get told by consultants who are talking to other consultants especially in London. I still think we're in for a spike and that we're going to see deaths continue to run at scarily and sad numbers for at least two more weeks. I'd love to be wrong. I'm not even sure if we won't get a spike in infections (and so deaths) if we do start playing again as I can't see how the infection will not still be active

 

[hovis]

That's 2 days in a row death count falling, 200 is a sizeable drop. The rate of infection has also been slowing for the last number of days. Obviously too early to make any assumptions but the numbers seem to be at the least stabilizing

since recording started Sunday and Mondays figures have always been very low. the BBC said it was down to weekend staffing levels

 

[Grizzly]

Still can't see any end before June based on what I get told by consultants who are talking to other consultants especially in London. I still think we're in for a spike and that we're going to see deaths continue to run at scarily and sad numbers for at least two more weeks. I'd love to be wrong. I'm not even sure if we won't get a spike in infections (and so deaths) if we do start playing again as I can't see how the infection will not still be active

Well, the positive - at least in London - appears to be that new infections in the Community have decreased almost to zero. My - admittedly limited - sample size for this is that of the nine agencies with whom I participate in a morning conference call each day, with a total workforce in the mid tens of thousands combined, all are now reporting more staff returning to work than going into isolation and today 8 of the 9 had no new sickness.

Now the negatives. That London result is not entirely mirrored nationally. And the infection still appears to be rampant in most every hospital, which means that on top of the ten day lag for death trends to catch up with infection trends, you still have open seats of infection.

Current guess? I reckon we'll be in lockdown another six weeks.

 

[Mel Smooth]

Still can't see any end before June based on what I get told by consultants who are talking to other consultants especially in London. I still think we're in for a spike and that we're going to see deaths continue to run at scarily and sad numbers for at least two more weeks. I'd love to be wrong. I'm not even sure if we won't get a spike in infections (and so deaths) if we do start playing again as I can't see how the infection will not still be active

Airlines and holiday companies are scheduled to start operating again from mid June.

I'd say if you can give the green light for air travel, you can give the green light for a golf course to be open.

The airlines won't be making that decision based on guesswork wither. Mid June is the date that presumaby the economy has to re-start, even if the virus is still prevelant.

 

[Grizzly]

Airlines and holiday companies are scheduled to start operating again from mid June.

I'd say if you can give the green light for air travel, you can give the green light for a golf course to be open.

The airlines won't be making that decision based on guesswork wither. Mid June is the date that presumaby the economy has to re-start, even if the virus is still prevelant.

Hmmm....

I think you're giving the airlines rather too much credit. The more likely explanation is that they picked a date just after the initial 13 week Government restrictions and worked on the basis that that was the stage at which they would cease to have any hope of Government funds to support them, ergo they had little option.

 

[Mel Smooth]

Hmmm....

I think you're giving the airlines rather too much credit. The more likely explanation is that they picked a date just after the initial 13 week Government restrictions and worked on the basis that that was the stage at which they would cease to have any hope of Government funds to support them, ergo they had little option.

The airline's and major international companies will have more than likely told the government when they need to start operating again, and the process now will be to control the virus to allow that to happen.

Despite what we all might like to think, the MPs in the House of Commons aren't making all the key decisions on how the country is run.

 

[Grizzly]

The airline's and major international companies will have more than likely told the government when they need to start operating again, and the process now will be to control the virus to allow that to happen.

Despite what we all might like to think, the MPs in the House of Commons aren't making all the key decisions on how the country is run.

I don't think of myself as being that naive. And I could buy your argument if it was solely based on the FTSE100 blue chips. But Airlines are really not that important in the grand scheme - if one goes, another will rise in its place and our Government will at most have an interest in two because the flag carrier system makes it very clear that other countries will have to prop their own carriers up should the need arise. The Government will be concerned that BA (and by extension its parent group) survive intact because they have the flag distinction here - but they could comfortably bail BA out and not blink. That really is about that though.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Can certainly see the lockdown lasting until after the next Bank Holiday and I guess it depends on how the graphs and trends are looking then. I think it'll be tough and fear that the public, or at least some factions won't like that and so will break social gathering rules especially if the weather is good. Saw an example on the local news tonight of a family from St Albans thinking it was acceptable to drive to Bournemouth to walk on the beach. I hope we may get back to the car park golf we had the last weekend before lockdown by June but not sure clubhouses will be fully open then

 

[fundy]

Can certainly see the lockdown lasting until after the next Bank Holiday and I guess it depends on how the graphs and trends are looking then. I think it'll be tough and fear that the public, or at least some factions won't like that and so will break social gathering rules especially if the weather is good. Saw an example on the local news tonight of a family from St Albans thinking it was acceptable to drive to Bournemouth to walk on the beach. I hope we may get back to the car park golf we had the last weekend before lockdown by June but not sure clubhouses will be fully open then

worse than that they did even go to the nearest beach, they actually went to Brighton didnt they

lots of stories, Durdle Door had lots of people turned away, a guy went for a 170 mile drive to get away from the mrs and kids, guy broke down having travelled to collect his "new" 2nd hand boat, a guy in a van who went to pick up a dirt bike

plenty of idiots and those who dont think it applies to them or that can find a loophole in the advice and focus on that

that said i think it is being over sensationalised, there are idiots out there, not sure its as bad as being portrayed tho and a large majority are doing as asked

 

[Deleted member 3432]

Can certainly see the lockdown lasting until after the next Bank Holiday and I guess it depends on how the graphs and trends are looking then. I think it'll be tough and fear that the public, or at least some factions won't like that and so will break social gathering rules especially if the weather is good. Saw an example on the local news tonight of a family from St Albans thinking it was acceptable to drive to Bournemouth to walk on the beach. I hope we may get back to the car park golf we had the last weekend before lockdown by June but not sure clubhouses will be fully open then

You could be opening a can of worms refering to car park golf judging by the recent thread on that subject

 

[Mel Smooth]

I don't think of myself as being that naive. And I could buy your argument if it was solely based on the FTSE100 blue chips. But Airlines are really not that important in the grand scheme - if one goes, another will rise in its place and our Government will at most have an interest in two because the flag carrier system makes it very clear that other countries will have to prop their own carriers up should the need arise. The Government will be concerned that BA (and by extension its parent group) survive intact because they have the flag distinction here - but they could comfortably bail BA out and not blink. That really is about that though.

It's not just air travel.
Lots of other sectors will need to be re-opened, tourism being a small part of that.
People staying at home across the continent has a huge knock on effect to oil prices, that has a huge impact on the global economy.
By the he time mid June arrives, a lot of data will be in place, and systems which keep the vulnerable members of society safer, and the rest of the population free to start returning to some sort of normality.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

You could be opening a can of worms refering to car park golf judging by the recent thread on that subject

Possibly but with the clubhouse shut and our members being asked to use the locker room solely to collect and return clubs to lockers, everything else was done via the car park. Pubs shut so no chance of a drink so finish, cars in the car or locker, change shoes and off

 

[Imurg]

A survey in the States has found that 48% of golf courses are still open...and that's up 4% from last week........
Mind boggling...

 

[BubbaP]

A survey in the States has found that 48% of golf courses are still open...and that's up 4% from last week........
Mind boggling...

Partly, I think around half of the states currently have less than 120 deaths, and many states are larger than European countries. So although states beginning with New are in a shocking place, many others will still be looking at them with "it won't happen here" mentality.

I had a bit of back n forth with someone from Oklahoma in FB who thinks all European's are wusses ?

 

[pendodave]

To be fair, once you factor out the moral outrage that someone might be enjoying themselves, golf can be played with the standard UK distancing rules applied at all times.
I think the Americans might be less puritanical in this sense, which is kind of ironic I guess.

 

[Doodle]

Ok.
I am officially bored stupid now.
Enough is enough.
If the supermarkets can enforce social distancing, so can lots of other places including golf courses.
We are going to have to live with this virus long after the lockdown is lifted, so let's get back to some normality (whilst being sensible)
Get the courses open.
Fed up now.

 

[jmcp]

Not quite related to us playing golf but skysports have announced that the pga are to resume competitive golf in June with no fans present, personally I would be happy to play anytime without fans lol. It will be interesting to hear from the European tour if they are preparing for a June startup as well.

cheers, John

 

[Mick68]

Ok.
I am officially bored stupid now.
Enough is enough.
If the supermarkets can enforce social distancing, so can lots of other places including golf courses.
We are going to have to live with this virus long after the lockdown is lifted, so let's get back to some normality (whilst being sensible)
Get the courses open.
Fed up now.

Exactly. I've been walking on our course with my wife and so have plenty of others. It's illogical to say you can walk on a golf course without clubs but you can't walk on it with clubs. And where better to socially distance if you were allowed to go out in pairs than on a golf course!

 

[bluewolf]

Exactly. I've been walking on our course with my wife and so have plenty of others. It's illogical to say you can walk on a golf course without clubs but you can't walk on it with clubs. And where better to socially distance if you were allowed to go out in pairs than on a golf course!

To be fair, not that I’m 100% against the idea of golf clubs reopening soon, I don’t think the argument was solely about the time on the course. Most people walking on golf courses have walked from home. The issue starts when everyone starts driving again.

It’s a 20 minute drive to my course, but a 10 minute walk to the course nearest my home. I walk/run across this course most days at the moment. It doesn’t mean that it’s safe to open all courses for play yet.