PJ87
Journeyman Pro
How many ladies take lower paid Jobs or don't work to provide childcare for their children?
If you can't see past the price and understand the bigger issues in the world then that's your problem
What’s your take on this?
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How many ladies take lower paid Jobs or don't work to provide childcare for their children?
If you can't see past the price and understand the bigger issues in the world then that's your problem
Mel Smooth
Hacker
Thoughts on dis
But the price is just part of the problem, again, why don't Manchester United offer discounted season tickets to women? They don't need to - plenty of women are happy to pay the going rate because they enjoy the experience.
If you have to de-value golf to get women to come along, then you really should be looking at golf and wondering what needs to change - and quite clearly, there are still a lot of things that do need to change.
But the price is just part of the problem, again, why don't Manchester United offer discounted season tickets to women? They don't need to - plenty of women are happy to pay the going rate because they enjoy the experience.
If you have to de-value golf to get women to come along, then you really should be looking at golf and wondering what needs to change - and quite clearly, there are still a lot of things that do need to change.
Sats
Challenge Tour Pro
I think it's a good incentive to get more women playing a game they view as a male dominated sport. To shout inequality is laughable as for years women won't allowed to even set foot in some clubs. It's also a good bit of business get them in at a cheaper rate, hook them and then they are in aren't they?
KenL
Tour Rookie
If you need more members, I see nothing wrong with offering all new members a discount. A certain gender group only just seems wrong.
Yorkhacker
Well-known member
York certainly doesn't need new members, but it would appear they need/want new lady members
evemccc
Well-known member
Point 1) This problematising….why is it actually a problem though, and when is ‘enough’ reached? The grounds for this is pure ideology
Point 2) I do not doubt this is true. But it’s a separate issue
timd77
Assistant Pro
If it was permanently cheaper for female golfers then there’d probably be an argument. But this is clearly aimed at trying to get more women to play golf. Kids don’t earn money but their parents do, if they had to pay full price for them then there’s a good many who wouldn’t.
What would spreading the discount across the membership achieve, long term, other than keeping the male members happy? Let’s face facts, this offer, unfortunately, won’t suddenly result in that club gaining 100 new female members, and so the savings across the rest of the membership would be minimal and achieve nothing. But maybe attracting 10 new female members might, especially year on year as word gets around that this club is female friendly and has a decent female community to play with if they lacked confidence to play with the men. It’s a great thing in my view.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
What is your obsession with Manchester United? They litterally couldn't be further from this example if they tried
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Plenty do cheaper rates for younger age groups
Idea is get them in and then they are the future of the club.
KenL
Tour Rookie
Yes, they do. However, it is the same price for all genders.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Still discrimination in some people's book.
It's an initial discount to get ladies to join the club and will be the full price in year 2..
See zero issues
Mel Smooth
Hacker
I think it's a perfect example to be honest.
Women pay the same to access gyms, football grounds, horse racing, concerts, the cinema - the list goes on and on and on.
Yet we need to reduce the cost of golf to get them interested. There's a reason for that - and it won't be solved by making it cheaper for them.
By making it cheaper - you are saying "your different" - it's fundamentally wrong, and out-dated.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
If you really think it's that simple then you have entirely missed the point.
I CBA to spend my Sunday explaining basics
Goodday
KenL
Tour Rookie
How arrogant. ?
rulefan
Tour Winner
And almost certainly illegal
timd77
Assistant Pro
You’re still picking sports where female participation is high. It’s not just women who view golf/golf clubs as an elitist sport ‘not for folks like us’.
To flip it around slightly, I can remember a recruitment campaign to get more men to become primary school teachers. Was that wrong or discriminatory? No, it was just trying to get under represented ‘people’ into a role to balance things up and make the world a better place.
Anyway, thankfully we’re all allowed our own views on this and so we’ll have to agree to disagree ??
Mel Smooth
Hacker
I'm picking sports where female participation is high to demonstrate what is wrong with golf, I'm not aware of any of those activities mentioned offering reduced prices to women to get them involved - yet football was very much a sport for the working class male at one time.
Did the potential male primary school teachers receive higher pay than their female counterparts do you know?
Do you think Female HGV drivers should get higher pay than male HGV drivers- after all, the ladies are in the minority in the industry?
Maybe men who rock up at ASDA to do the weekly family shop should get a discount while we're trying to attract men and women into activities that is normally the domain of the opposite sex?
timd77
Assistant Pro
The fact you still think it’s women who do the weekly shop says it all.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
Jesus H Christ - in the majority of family households they will!!!
Can you answer some of the other questions I've asked in my response to you, or are you also going to try and undermine a very valid point I'm trying to make, with cynical comments
Mel Smooth
Hacker
And by the way, I mentioned this policy from York Golf Club to my wife - who normally does the weekly shop, and she said straight off the bat "That's sexual discrimination".
