UKIP a change on the political horizon or not.

[Fish]

I see the EU have decided that due to our economy recovering better than the rest of the EU we will have to pay an additional £1.7 Billion. You couldn't make it up!

I've just read this, apparently our success will help "prop-up" struggling France, I'm sorry but this is just crazy and if they (Brussels) can DEMAND this 1.7m, then the quicker we get out of Europe the better, I don't buy into this "we can't then trade" etc, if we have the skills and goods and the price is right, then customers wherever they are, will buy from us!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-29750308?ocid=socialflow_twitter

 

[Fish]

Only got 8 minutes into this as I don't have time (40mins) to listen to it all this morning, but from what I have listened to briefly, what a scary eye opener it is!

http://youtu.be/7lBW9NI90jQ

 

[Rumpokid]

With this latest demand from our European fatcat friends, it all appears to be getting a little silly.
Britain is the naughty schoolboy that is always getting a hundred lines from the EU.
Mr Slippery no doubt will come home 'victorious' with yet another agreement for us..No chance.Bottom line is, we as a nation are dissliked by the EU....Time for change...

 

[jp5]

Wow, £1.7billion demanded from the EU as a result of the austerity the country has been through.

Now, where are those commentators who suggested that only the low-of-IQ vote for UKIP? Perhaps with their diminished intellect, the low-of-IQ can see how much of a drain EU membership is on this great country.

 

[Birchy]

Tell the EU on your bike you set of ............. (insert favourite swearword).

All we ever do is payout, we always put in more than we get out so what is the point?

All the so called benefits we get are flimsy as well.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

It is time that current parties got there heads back out from where they are stuck,and woke up to the problems of the country, they are in denial......Be it,,,,bloated welfare bill, health, immigration, lack of discipline in schools, personal and national debt..The list is endless.

...and UKIP have costed policies to address all of the above...? With UKIP I have a feeling of 'better the devil you don't know...'

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I really do not understand why posters say that the UK get nothing out of Europe.

In Scotland many new rural and major infrastructure developments are EU supported and our farmers would not exist if it were not for the EU subsidies.

 

[jp5]

I really do not understand why posters say that the UK get nothing out of Europe.

In Scotland many new rural and major infrastructure developments are EU supported and our farmers would not exist if it were not for the EU subsidies.

We don't get nothing, we get less than we put in.

 

[Birchy]

I really do not understand why posters say that the UK get nothing out of Europe.

In Scotland many new rural and major infrastructure developments are EU supported and our farmers would not exist if it were not for the EU subsidies.

Couple of years old this article but it gives you an idea on the trend that we have been sucked into by these jokers.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2052433/Chart-How-does-Britain-pay-EU-does-back.html

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So not £1.7bn then?

 

[Birchy]

So not £1.7bn then?

Im not sure what you are getting at with that question.

We are 97 billion euros down off the figures shown in that article.

 

[Birchy]

Just open the vaults and let them come and take what they want.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Just open the vaults and let them come and take what they want.

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That's not w nice pic to look at

So why are we having to pay all this money ?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

It's news that EU Leavers and Haters will just love. However I am wondering how much of our current economic 'success' is actually due to our membership of the EU and our ability to exploit the markets that it provides the UK with by us being in it.

 

[SocketRocket]

It's news that EU Leavers and Haters will just love. However I am wondering how much of our current economic 'success' is actually due to our membership of the EU and our ability to exploit the markets that it provides the UK with by us being in it.

And can you blame them!

Its due to the pain the public have had to bear by austerity cuts. So the EU decide to punish us for this, like I said you couldn't make it up! Manna from Heaven for UKIP though.

 

[jp5]

It's news that EU Leavers and Haters will just love. However I am wondering how much of our current economic 'success' is actually due to our membership of the EU and our ability to exploit the markets that it provides the UK with by us being in it.

And we, the 5th (?) largest world economy, wouldn't be able to trade with those markets if we weren't a member of the union?

 

[Birchy]

It's news that EU Leavers and Haters will just love. However I am wondering how much of our current economic 'success' is actually due to our membership of the EU and our ability to exploit the markets that it provides the UK with by us being in it.

I find it hard to believe that anybody will trade with a nationality over skills, quality & value.

I also wonder how much throwing all that money into the joke European project over the years actually contributed to us struggling in the first place?

All the facts point to us getting a **** deal out of the EU since it started until now. Propping up nations who constantly struggle and aren't even bothered as they get a nice juicy hand out.

Ive never voted UKIP but they will drag a shedload of voters in with this.

I might have to give half my IQ to the EU and make a change.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And can you blame them!

Its due to the pain the public have had to bear by austerity cuts. So the EU decide to punish us for this, like I said you couldn't make it up! Manna from Heaven for UKIP though.

Indeed - but it isn't punishment - it's just us playing to the rule that says if a country is doing well by being in the EU then it contributes a bit more to the pot. Of course that argument will fall on deaf ears of UKIP - especially as it is a bit socialist (distributive) in nature - as their focus is on the UK belly button and the fluff contained therein. But all good and well for them as they don't make any bones about that - and if that's what UKIP supporters want then so be it.

 

[SocketRocket]

And we, the 5th (?) largest world economy, wouldn't be able to trade with those markets if we weren't a member of the union?

Spot on! It makes me laugh when people suggest that if we left the EU the countries of Europe would stop trading with us, we trade with them at a deficit !!

I guess we would have to borrow the £1.7 Billion as well as we don't have any money, just a £1.45 Trillion National Debt. Couldn't make it up!

 

[SocketRocket]

Indeed - but it isn't punishment - it's just us playing to the rule that says if a country is doing well by being in the EU then it contributes a bit more to the pot. Of course that argument will fall on deaf ears of UKIP - especially as it is a bit socialist (distributive) in nature - as their focus is on the UK belly button and the fluff contained therein. But all good and well for them as they don't make any bones about that - and if that's what UKIP supporters want then so be it.

I get it then! We make cuts and suffer to improve growth and pay more into the pot, other countries keep spending and carry on being basket cases. We have to pay more to keep them in their current malaise!

Whats this got to do with UKIP? I guess you don't like it that the things they are telling people about the EU are coming home to roost.