JCW
Journeyman Pro
Whats your angle pal , what answer do you want , its nothink new , people use to vote for lord Sutch and his monster raving looney party , but at a general election it was another story
UKIP a change on the political horizon or not.
- Thread starter Tashyboy
- Start date
- Status
Whats your angle pal , what answer do you want , its nothink new , people use to vote for lord Sutch and his monster raving looney party , but at a general election it was another story
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Oh! so how many voted for the Monster Raving Looney Party? Not as many as UKIP! Just wait and see what happens in the upcoming Bi-election.
I dont have angles I just say what I see (Like catchphrase) and i just want answers that are logical. Do you honestly believe these people voting UKIP are not supporting their policies? If you do then you IMO are delusional Pal!
JCW
Journeyman Pro
Oh! so how many voted for the Monster Raving Looney Party? Not as many as UKIP! Just wait and see what happens in the upcoming Bi-election.
I dont have angles I just say what I see (Like catchphrase) and i just want answers that are logical. Do you honestly believe these people voting UKIP are not supporting their policies? If you do then you IMO delusional. Oh! Pal
Ukip will win the by election then lose it at the General election and as for policies , do you 100% know what they stand for or do all those that vote know , I think not , its just a way of getting back at the tories , if you seeing more then good luck to you , Ukip will never be in power
bluewolf
Money List Winner
Its a bit like the Kings suit of clothes then. Only a fool would see the problems that UKIP voters are concerned about
Ah, I never called anyone foolish. I just stated that sometimes, people like to look in the direction that others are pointing.
What I am currently interested in is the political alliance between UKIP and the Polish Far Right. Whilst it may just be a marriage of convenience, I would be amazed if certain media allies are happy with the arrangement...
chrisd
Major Champion
No, UKIP will never be in power and that why they don't need policies for everything. Why would anyone be interested in their policy for, say, Syria when it's irrelevant to any discussion, opponents only bring this up to show that they aren't ready to govern - but they aren't going to govern, so they don't need to worry beyond their reason for existing - to extricate us from the EU and the immigration that goes with it. But IMO any who thinks that UKIP won't win seats at the general election if the main parties don't become more appealing are deluding themselves!
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
If you want to understand what they stand for then go have a look at their web site. I't's all listed there.
http://www.ukip.org/issues
Last edited:
Ethan
Money List Winner
If you want to see an incoherent and incontinent wish list of fanciful, uncommitted and unworkable xenophobic promises, you mean.
UKIP do best when they make vague promises and bark slogans, because they hope that most of their supporters lack the interest or intellect to look beyond the superficial. Which, based on most of the UKIP supporters who turn up on TV, seems to be a reasonable hope.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Your continual policy of insulting peoples intellect is disgusting and does noting for yours.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Nigel seems quite a fair orator, I like his style.
[video=youtube;h5Y3rA8nBfQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Y3rA8nBfQ[/video]
[video=youtube;h5Y3rA8nBfQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Y3rA8nBfQ[/video]
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Is it still UKIP policy to abolish the Wales and Scots parliament?
JCW
Journeyman Pro
He is a Bigot , a Nazi dressed up as what those that follow him want him to be , win the odd by election and shout the odds and thats it , some get taken in but for how long no one knows or cares
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
You tell me. Its not in their list of policies so where is it?
Ethan
Money List Winner
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
What else do you expect from one of the great unwashed.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Ethan
Money List Winner
Seriously, though, that list of UKIP ideas is mostly fanciful nonsense. If you tunnel into any of them, the amount of cost and change needed would be enormous and mostly unachievable. It is easy to promise that GPs will be available 7 days a week and will do house calls in their Austin 7 like Dr Finlay, and many people would agree that is a good thing (although it may or may not be) but it something else entirely to deliver that.
UKIP basically has a 'out of Europe' policy and everything else is either cut and pasted in around that idea or is simply absent. They would be better to stick as a single issue party acknowledging they are never going to be in Govt. Like the National Health Action Party, who campaign on the NHS only and don't have policy on everything else.
Tashyboy
Please don’t ask to see my tatts 👍
The problem is and I keep saying this, what did Nigel Farage say in that video clip which was factually wrong. Nothing and anyone who has learned to read and write and gets to see that clip, well it will endorse there beliefs that they have something to relate to.
re UKIPs policies and putting them on here. In the essence of fairness, labours and the Tories should be linked and put on here, because I bet just as many voters don't know what there policies are either.
dont bother with the Libs coz you can't believe them
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
they seem to believe we would have a fir amount of cash is we weren't paying so much to the EU. £1.7 Billion that just jumped out of the hat would go a long way to paying for some more Doctors.
Ethan
Money List Winner
But it isn't as simple as saying we won't pay the money we owe to the EU and therefore we can go on a spending spree on something else. The economy will reset if EU withdrawal takes place and there will be additional costs elsewhere, money lost on one placed, gained in another and it will take a while before we see the net effect which may or may not be positive. All the farmers who get EU subsidy would lose those, so might need UK Govt support instead, some of the markets available for EU trade might not be available on the same terms, admin costs for import/export would be more complicated and costly.
Anyway, this issue with the £1.7bn is a stunt. The UK owes this, had agreed the mechanism in advance, knew it was coming and will pay, but Cameron is doing a Jim Hacker strop for political purposes to placate the would be UKIP vote in his party.
I agree, if voting means getting out of Europe which I'm all for, so be it, they'll get my vote :thup:
I don't see why, even if we've agreed to "the mechanism" there is no reward for all of us who are making sacrifices to shore up the deficit and our economy only then to see us propping up the likes of France & Germany who aren't obviously trying hard enough because we've got to shell out another 1.7bn which also goes to other countries getting refunds and more bailouts, stuff them, stuff Europe, as I said in an earlier post, I don't buy into the "we'll be cut off from trading" rubbish, if we have the skills and the product, countries will buy it, simples.
This rant was obviously written by an illiterate, uneducated, unwashed individual who has been hoodwinked and taken in by the UKIP train :smirk:
- Status
