Typical stats for different handicaps?

[Leftie]

Barry

According to SS2 .........


H/cap 27

FIR 18%
GIR 4%
Putts 39
Sand saves 5%
Penalties 2.7


H/cap 20

FIR 32%
GIR 11%
Putts 36
Sand saves 9%
Penalties 2.0

It's definitely worth downloading the free trial and see how you get on.

 

[chris661]

I have absolutely no idea what my stats are nor would I want to. It is just another way to heap pressure on yourself IMO and I can do without that thank you very much.

This is also my view.

Total rubbish, in my view.

Even after a very few games, it can be a valuable tool in highlighting areas of your game that might need a bit more working on. If nothing else, it would confirm or otherwise your gut feeling about where your game needs urgent improvement and at the same time concentrate the mind.

There again, you may not take the game seriously nor want to improve.

Bollocks.

Well then again I suppose cos I dropped only the 8 shots last year I did n ot take it seriously or want to improve.
Hope I can drop 2 shots this year by not taking it seriously or wanting to improve

 

[kinhell]

Whats the urls to HDID and SS2?

 

[richart]

Last time out i hit one fairway in regulation, 7%, but hit 40% of greens in regulation. Must admit i didn't need stats to tell me my driving was crap. Every time i went looking for ball in the rubbish i had a good reminder.

Do agree though that it could be especially useful for beginners and higher handicaps, if they don't realise themelves where their weakness is.

Putting stats can be misleading, as if you hit a lot of greens in regulation, you may be having a lot of two putts. If you are just missing greens you may be getting up and down a lot, and have low putts per round.

 

[brendy]

Can't fully agree with you there Brendy

FIR, GIR, sand saves, penalties, etc are still valid whatever length of course you are playing or whatever the run. The only stat that might not really valid could be putting on temps.

Not a problem leftie, it's your perogative to disagree.
Let's take my club for instance, during the summer our hardest hole is our 5th hole, 450 yard par 4 with a 90 dogleg at 250. There are trees (100+ ft tall pines courtesy them being boosted up with a bank) all the way along the right to stop people using the neighbouring fairway to make things easier. 40 yards short of the green is a path org small banks each side and the green is protected with bunkers. Off the normal tees only the very longest hitters can get there in 2. In the winter shortened tees means anyone that can hit the ball 200 yards can get there in 2 comfortably as the hole loses 80 yards.
In the opening four holes there are two par 5's which are shortened to 400 yards and you are so far up the holes that you are driving to a very fat bit of fairway with a short iron into the green.
A couple of the long par 3's which can almost be unreachable in the summer into the wind, are reduced to 7 irons in the winter. Don't start me on greens either, slow winter greens are a different game from summer, non bobbling fair greens.
Other courses I know are similar. At very best winter and summer stats should not becviewed in the same light.

 

[Leftie]

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[Leftie]

To be fair Brendy, my stats, taken over reasonably long sample periods, do not vary much summer to winter. You just have to adapt your game for the different conditions.

When we have to use them, our winter tees are not very far forward, if at all, from the summer tees and our temps, when on, are in the main only a few yards before the main greens and are cut in the approaches so are reasonably good.

I'll concede that summer/winter stats may be a bit different, particularly if par 5's are reduced to par 4 lengths etc. but they can still give an indication of areas of your game that might need attention.

Just as an example...

As you have probably gathered from a certain select few, I'm not exactly the longest of hitters and often struggle to get pin high in regulation. My stats tell me that if I hit FIR, I hit GIR about 30% of the time. If I miss the fairway, then my GIR is down to about 10%. Average putts for GIR is 2 and for green missed about 1.6. This tells me I need to improve my chipping.

From this I know that I need to drive further (not going to significantly improve this at my time of life ) so concentrate on more accuracy off the tee but, probably most importantly, work on the long game. Once I'm (hopefully) hitting more GIR then my putting stats will change and I will re-concentrate my efforts on that aspect.

What I suppose I'm saying is that while I probably have a gut feeling about the various parts of my game, the stats will highlight if any particular part of my game is changing and where and when an extra bit of work is needed.

 

[Whereditgo]

I religously enter my stats on SS2 and find them very useful, hopefully a pdf of today's round should appear below

Wow! - it appears to have worked!

 

[swinger85]

Hi lads ive not got a handicap yet but i hav got round my par 70 course in 94 today which i am happy about as its a massive improvement from where i was a month ago. Hopefully i can get my handicap sorted soob so i kno where i am and try to improve it

 

[brendy]

Fantastic, now get the whole story up

 

[swinger85]

Im new to this what constitutes the whole story ha

 

[AMcC]

I am quite sad and pretty much always record how I have played.

During 2010 I played 25 times off the medal tees.

I hit an average of 5.96 fairways out of 16. 37.25%

Greens in regulation 3.04 out of 18. 16.88%

Average of 33.8 putts.



I play of 18 so that give you a pointer for around the 20 mark.

First time I have seen a print out from SS2 looks good.

 

[Whereditgo]

First time I have seen a print out from SS2 looks good.

That is just a screenshot of the reports page, the actual main screen is much better and there is endless information in the software, such as; round summaries, stats for different courses off different tee's, calculating the actual SI for the player, graphs for the 8 key stats and handicap basically more info than you can shake a stick at!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Another huge fan for me. Whilst you may know instantly as you play that you are driving like a fool or missing too many greens, three putting etc how are you suppose to see if it is a one off or if there is a regular trend. Can you remember which side of the fairway or green you keep missing etc.

What it is very good at is giving you trends. I think if you look at your stats for a month it owuld show up some interesting trends. Like the knockers regularly say when SS2 (or similar) comes up for discussion you can make statistics say anything and to a point you are right. My argument would be how do you REALLY know where the regular faults are if you don't know. Why are the pros so keen to know their figures when they are the best players out there. It is so the trends and weaknesses can be spotted and rectified. Amateurs can do the same. My pro and I use the figures when I go for a lesson as it shows him instantly if I'm missing too many fairways and not giving myself a chance to hit greens or if I'm missing too many greens form the ideal spot. Am I not getting up and down or failing to make putts. Find the problem, get the fix and get better

 

[brendy]

Don't get me wrong, I love ss2 and promise to buy it this year! But in the winter the ball doesn't run and could distort fairways and greens in regulation. It is more like throwing darts and the ball wont need ingenuity compared to the better weather where you need to take run out and obstacles in front of the greens into consideration. When I buy ss2 I will be keeping winter and summer golf totally separate.

 

[AMcC]

The stats I put up were only off medal tees during the season, so were more representative of my golf ander a degree of pressure. Don't usually bother with too many notes in bounce games.
Would be the same if I used SS2

 

[FourPutt]

I have Golfshot GPS for the iPhone and it records stats, albeit less of them than SS2. Using it in conjunction with Golfplan, it tells you whether you're better or worse than your handicap average.

Mine tells me i'm crap at GIR and sand and I'm better than average for my handicap on Driving, putting and scrambling...

Nothing that I didn't know anyway, but it's always nice to have confirmation that you're identifying the correct bits of your game to focus on.

 

[Imurg]

When I buy ss2 I will be keeping winter and summer golf totally separate.

Easy to do - just enter the date range you want to look at. To be honest, looking at averages over a year, it takes a lot to change them when you have data from 60 or 70 rounds in there. Far better to look at the last 2 months for real info.

 

[FourPutt]

I agree. I usually look at my last 5 or last 10 rounds to see how I'm doing.