Bagger Vance
Member
I watched the snooker last night, the commentators were horrified when Selby hit his cue on the table after missing a shot. Is this the end for snooker 
Two shot penalty
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Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
One can but hope.....
The biggest problem now is cameras and social media, they can record and hear a pin drop.
I donāt think the game has changed in that regard, just that people get full access to it now.
There will need to be clear and transparent rules to what is not allowedā¦..
I donāt think the game has changed in that regard, just that people get full access to it now.
There will need to be clear and transparent rules to what is not allowedā¦..
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
Just typical of modern society ,bubble wrapping the masses. Most competitive sports (football etc included) have an element of passion and emotion, this often involves colourful language. Is it ideal, not when tv coverage is so clear and up close but at the same time you cannot fully sensor life!
Highfade
Newbie
dangerous territory.
the amount of whataboutery the arbiter is leaving themselves open to would not be worth the hassle.
could get ridiculous, even litigious if outcome meant loss of earnings
the amount of whataboutery the arbiter is leaving themselves open to would not be worth the hassle.
could get ridiculous, even litigious if outcome meant loss of earnings
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
I have zero issues with a swear word being uttered or slipping out in frustration, Iām terrible for swearing due to my work environment and other factors itās completely normal for me. BUT! I donāt shout profanities at people and I donāt shout them out on a golf course when I hit a bad shot. So I have no dramas with players swearing, the issue is when they shout them out for all to hear, seeing players flipping the bird is just childish and physical damage to courses and launching clubs imo is not acceptable behaviour. If I was playing with someone doing that Iād be having words and if it continued Iād walk off and would not play with them again. We all have different standards of what we accept but those things have no place on a golf course and certainly no place in the pro game being broadcast and they should be penalised for it.
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Every sport has rules and disciplinary action. Nothing new here except the outcome is more severe. If golfers enter the competitions, they are accepting these rules. If it really were to kick off, sport appeals go to the Court Of Arbitration for Sport. There is a process in place.
JonnyGutteridge
Newbie
I draw the line at club chucking (and Iāve had my moments in years gone by, including snapping a couple of clubs). Itās petulant.
Swearingā¦. Crack on! (Sorry mods!)
Swearingā¦. Crack on! (Sorry mods!)
Highfade
Newbie
cant imagine a claret jug being awarded retrospectively after an upheld appeal on a contentious disorderly conduct penalty
Other sports manage. If someone had a meltdown on the 16th, final round, I imagine the referee would be on the walkie talkie straight away and it would be resolved within minutes. Referees decision is final............
No different to a penalty given for other reasons.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Now we're into defining club chucking....
Obviously, launching a club yards down the fairway or into advertising boards is included...
But what about the player who hits a stinker a d let's go of his club which falls behind or to the side of him..?
Is that a chuck?
He's let go of the club so, technically, it's a chuck but is it doing any narm?
These are the difficulties facing those who want to draw a line......placing that line is important but oh so difficult..
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
VAR in Golf....?.bring it on......
Players have had their little tantrums for donkeyās years, it happens. For some itās been swearing, others have gone further. As long as the authorities police it sensibly, whatās the issue. Itās not always about heavy handed disciplinary measures. Sometimes players just need a quiet word away from the initial explosion. Most will say, āyes I overreacted,ā and be embarrassed by it.
Quell the storm and move on.
Quell the storm and move on.
sunshine
Well-known member
āLitigiousā 
When are we going to see a premier league club sue the referee for making a mistake? Especially if it means relegation.
When are we going to see a premier league club sue the referee for making a mistake? Especially if it means relegation.
Highfade
Newbie
but it is different as its subjective.
penalties in golf are objective.
is your ball OB? yes - penalty
do u have 15 clubs in your bag? yes -penalty
did you ground your club in the bunker? yes - penalty
did the ball move after you addressed it? yes - penalty
this brings in the potential for: unpopular LIV guy swears on 18th tee of final round with a 1 shot lead. penalty. popular hometown player does similar on 8th tee on thursday. no penalty.
Highfade
Newbie
litigious in the context that there could be an appeal process that overturns a decision...disciplinary sanctions get overturned every week in football when red cards are rescinded and even games have been replayed due to high profile refereeing errors so its not a unheard of as you seem to be asserting.āLitigiousā
When are we going to see a premier league club sue the referee for making a mistake? Especially if it means relegation.
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
Players throws club is that subjective? No itās clearly visible so penalty!
Player smashes the tee box, again no lt subjective
Player snaps club not subjective
Player destroys bunkers, not subjective.
All of those things happen and are witness whereās the subjective argument to appeal those actions.
Highfade
Newbie
extreme fringe examples. and yes those could be defined as sanctionable.
However, "player throws club" how far, 10 feet towards their caddy? or 50 feet down the fairway or into water? is there a difference?
2 players smash club down after bad shots, one players club break another is more resilient and doesnt break (same with tee marker). is there a difference?
That's the same as slow play penalties now. Given to the amatuer no one has heard of, not given to a world top 10 player. That's up to the authorities whether they apply it or not.
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