TRUMP, What the hell is going on

[spongebob59]

for those who haven't seen the tweets :

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly...... ....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how.... ....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!

 

[Robster59]

Terrible comments, far worse than those by the Ambassador, but he'll not go as he's too full of his own self-importance. Unless he's actually impeached.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Terrible comments, far worse than those by the Ambassador, but he'll not go as he's too full of his own self-importance. Unless he's actually impeached.

and some folks just yawn...

 

[Old Skier]

You continuing to push your opinion based on a complete lack of knowledge of the role of an ambassador.

Be interested to know which embassy you have worked in and which ambassador you worked with to acquire your knowledge.

 

[ger147]

for those who haven't seen the tweets :

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly...... ....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how.... ....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!

Re. folks going back to where they came from, what time is Melania's flight to Slovenia?

 

[patricks148]

Re. folks going back to where they came from, what time is Melania's flight to Slovenia?

or better still cut trump in half and send one bit to Germany the other to Lewis

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Re. folks going back to where they came from, what time is Melania's flight to Slovenia?

ah but Melanie does not criticise.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Be interested to know which embassy you have worked in and which ambassador you worked with to acquire your knowledge.

I know a deputy ambassador who has covered 3 or 4 European countries if that counts. And they said that what he did was pretty standard stuff. Assessments are being made about governments/administrations all the time and indeed there will be many assessments in embassies in the UK painting a not very favourable picture of how we have governed ourselves over the last 3 years. It's just that usually they do not have to write such 'explicit stuff' as in most cases the leaders of leading countries behave in a relatively statesmanlike manner, and they normally write such things in an expectation that it wont leaked, potentially for political purposes. But as with lots of things nowadays, the old rules seem to be ripped up and we are in uncharted territory.

 

[SocketRocket]

I know a deputy ambassador who has covered 3 or 4 European countries if that counts. And they said that what he did was pretty standard stuff. Assessments are being made about governments/administrations all the time and indeed there will be many assessments in embassies in the UK painting a not very favourable picture of how we have governed ourselves over the last 3 years. It's just that usually they do not have to write such 'explicit stuff' as in most cases the leaders of leading countries behave in a relatively statesmanlike manner, and they normally write such things in an expectation that it wont leaked, potentially for political purposes. But as with lots of things nowadays, the old rules seem to be ripped up and we are in uncharted territory.

Do you honestly think he revealed anything more than Hogies mate down the pub could have told us. Talk about money for old rope. He could have just said "You know what he's like"

 

[User62651]

So is The Donald now officially a racist? Think that's what the House of Rep has determined with that vote to condemn yesterday.

Or just a Democrat led conspiracy?

 

[Norrin Radd]

how deep has the hole got to be before they bury Trump ,he keeps digging and nobody has the guts to backfill it on top of him .
god forbid a second term of office.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The problem is Trump is appealing to that vast range of racist White supremacists bigots in the US - the country is still awash with racism and segregation and they have a President that will embody that

 

[Dan2501]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4154484/1/katie-johnson-v-donald-j-trump/

 

[Lord Tyrion]

If the Democrats engage their brains and put up even a half decent candidate then there must be enough Americans who will be embarrassed by Trump that they will vote him out. If they put someone up who is on the left of the party then I think he will get in again. Core Trump voters will back him whatever. It is the people in the middle that will jump ship if there is a decent alternative.

It is a big election for the US.

 

[Foxholer]

So is The Donald now officially a racist? Think that's what the House of Rep has determined with that vote to condemn yesterday.

Or just a Democrat led conspiracy?

Both!

 

[Foxholer]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4154484/1/katie-johnson-v-donald-j-trump/

I trust you realise that she withdrew that accusation in November 2016. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ty-DROPS-case-casting-doubt-truth-claims.html

 

[Dan2501]

I trust you realise that she withdrew that accusation in November 2016. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ty-DROPS-case-casting-doubt-truth-claims.html

I do, and I trust you realise that her attorney admitted the reason she withdrew the accusation was because she was receiving death threats?

Trump and Epstein, a man who has a previous conviction for soliciting a 14-year old for prostitution and was recently arrested on sex-trafficing charges, have been pictured together, they were good friends. Trump was quoted as saying:

“He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

But, you know, she withdrew her lawsuit, so it definitely didn't happen. Despite being corroborated by Epstein's "party planner", Trump being close friends with him and flying on his jet multiple times.

Also, this isn't the only lawsuit of this nature out there: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4524664/doe-v-trump/ What a surprise this was was also "voluntarily dismissed".

 

[Foxholer]

I do, and I trust you realise that her attorney admitted the reason she withdrew the accusation was because she was receiving death threats?

Trump and Epstein, a man who has a previous conviction for soliciting a 14-year old for prostitution and was recently arrested on sex-trafficing charges, have been pictured together, they were good friends. Trump was quoted as saying:



But, you know, she withdrew her lawsuit, so it definitely didn't happen. Despite being corroborated by Epstein's "party planner", Trump being close friends with him and flying on his jet multiple times.

Also, this isn't the only lawsuit of this nature out there: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4524664/doe-v-trump/ What a surprise this was was also "voluntarily dismissed".

While I detest Trump, I'm also a believer in the Rule of Law - and the principle of 'innocent until proven guilty'! Are you?

Hearsay, or even things lawyers might say to a court, do not necessarily constitute 'truth', and certainly not 'proof of guilt'!

Of course, Epstein HAS been convicted! But, again, association with a convicted man doesn't consrtitute proof of the same crime. Just poor judgement (imo)!

 

[Dan2501]

While I detest Trump, I'm also a believer in the Rule of Law - and the principle of 'innocent until proven guilty'! Are you?

Hearsay, or even things lawyers might say to a court, do not necessarily constitute 'truth', and certainly not 'proof of guilt'!

Of course, Epstein HAS been convicted! But, again, association with a convicted man doesn't consrtitute proof of the same crime. Just poor judgement (imo)!

I am, but in circumstances like these where Trump has the money and the power to bury this testimony and threaten victims into silence I struggle to believe there is no smoke without fire, especially in the face of multiple corroborated lawsuits where he and Epstein were named as co-plaintiffs that have both been buried in the same way. His connections to Epstein, and quote from 2002 really don't help his case, as are previous comments he has made in regards to grabbing women. It's not like these accusations have come completely out of the blue and are completely random and out of character, there are so many stories and reports linking Trump to behaviour like this.

Also seems pretty co-incidental that as soon as these reports start to come out and make news headlines, he decides to go on a racist tirade on Twitter to distract everyone and get them talking about that instead.

 

[Foxholer]

I am...

Good!

...but in circumstances like these where Trump has the money and the power to bury this testimony and threaten victims into silence I struggle to believe there is no smoke without fire...

So not really!

And you appear to opening both yourself and GM up to some serious legal recourse![/QUOTE]