TRUMP, What the hell is going on

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Old Skier said:
He's most probably secured a further term listening to the US political commentators regardless of what we or SILH thinks.
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Quite possibly as he will spend the next 2yrs out on the stump - he can't be bothered with the day-to-day grind of politics and policy in any case - so will just stand there at the podium blaming the dems for everything and braying his self-serving lies and bile to his acolytes, and next time around - they will most likely vote for him.

Wonder how much over the coming days and weeks we'll be hearing from Trump on 'the immigrant caravan' and 'the tax cut for middle earners'...we'll see.
 
Not overly keen on the bloke, but he had a better First Midterm than others...

Clinton -52/-8
Obama -63/-6
Trump -34/+3

No doubt all the UK press will be going on about him getting spanked in the midterms, but he's done OK and I still have him down for winning a second term.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
He will take the credit for the additional Senate seats and Governors (of course taking greatest pleasure and ownership where he had a rally in the state) - and in his head will put the House losses down to others. He will still be thinking he can do what he wants. But he can't. And such as the House Judiciary Committee with a Dem Chairman are now able to ask what could be some very revealing questions of Trump; his finances, and his business interests. His Presidency has been - to a significant extend - neutered.
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He will continue to do what he wants and most probably get most of what he wants through. There will be little/no effect on his presidency moving forward.
 
Things still going the Dems way as results continue to come in. Florida Gov and Senator recounts triggered - the Reps complaining and wanting counting of votes finished - claiming conspiracy - which Trump just loves of course.

And you can only kick Jim Acosta out of the WH briefings once - so that diversion tactic gone as Mitch McConnell tells reporters that there is no way that Trump (or his lacky Matthew Whitaker - the new acting Attorney General) will be able to halt the Mueller investigation. Indeed given Whitakers clearly stated views on the investigation it is possible that he may have to recuse himself (as Sessions had to) though he is of course insisting that he won't - well why would he - it's the only reason Trump appointed him to the role.

The little dog laughed to see such fun...
 
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Dellboy said:
Not overly keen on the bloke, but he had a better First Midterm than others...

Clinton -52/-8
Obama -63/-6
Trump -34/+3

No doubt all the UK press will be going on about him getting spanked in the midterms, but he's done OK and I still have him down for winning a second term.
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Presidents generally don't do well in Mid-term when the economy, jobs, stock market etc are not doing well. When these things are going well then the President does wll in the Mid-terms. They are all going well at the moment - whether Trump had anything to do with them is neither here nor there - the numbers are good for the President - but the GOP has lost a lot of seats in Congress, it has lost Governors and it has lost 100s of legislature seats - in midterm elections which Trump made 'all about him'

So putting aside what Trump might want us to believe - here are the facts

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...8-results-governors-state-legislatures-agenda
 
When you look at who has stopped a number of minority/ethnic groups from voting you've really got to question the democracy in the USA. For example, a number of native Americans can't register to vote because their Reservation address isn't recognised. And a number of African-Americans also struggle to register because they are from a poor background and their births weren't registered.

Coincidence, but the majority of groups that are excluded from voting (typically) vote Democrat... and Trump is a Republican. Purely coincidence of course.

And if you look at how many recounts are currently taking place in different states...
 
Hobbit said:
Coincidence, but the majority of groups that are excluded from voting (typically) vote Democrat... and Trump is a Republican. Purely coincidence of course.
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So this is something Trump brought in? (clearly not, but Obama didnt change it either)

There is an ID to vote debate in the UK right now... some interesting conversations being had... some of the alarming.
 
White House lawn yesterday on his pick for the new Acting Attorney General "I've never met/known Matt Whitaker" x 5 (clue: when Trump is spinning a biggie he usually repeats himself).

Trump speaking on 11th October "Matt Whitaker is a great guy. I mean. I know Matt Whitaker"

Would be dead funny if he wasn't PotUS - actually it is still dead funny just because it is so ludicrous - Trump is sooo ludicrous...
 
Daniel Dale of the Toronto Star has been fact-checking every utterance Trump has made over the last two years - and so we learn from Dale that in the month leading up to the Mid-terms Trump uttered 815 lies or deceits. Almost 30 a day - every day - with the maximum being 54 on the eve of the elections themselves.

Now we might say that all politicians lie - but never on this scale - well at least not in a democracy.
 
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Dando said:
Are they lies or exaggerations?
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Exaggerations can be as bad as lies if the listener does not know the difference or the truth.

So Trump said that the Dems will give a car to undocumented immigrants - Lie or exaggeration? Whatever - it's just not true.

He said that the Dems are behind the caravan coming up from Central America - Lie or exaggeration? Whatever - it's just not true.

And so on - and on - and on. 815 times in one month.

Here's a link

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...-of-donald-trumps-pre-midterm-dishonesty.html

And hearing that Trump is permanently angry these days - what with the Mid-terms, the Veterans Day debacle etc etc - and apparently he just doesn't have any friends to share his problems with. And now - to top it all - following the Jim Acosta 'banning' Fox News are coming out as supportive of Jim Acosta and CNN and critical of Trumpo. Oh good grief - poor Donald will go into meltdown if he thinks that Fox News are turning against him.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Exaggerations can be as bad as lies if the listener does not know the difference or the truth.

So Trump said that the Dems will give a car to undocumented immigrants - Lie or exaggeration? Whatever - it's just not true.

He said that the Dems are behind the caravan coming up from Central America - Lie or exaggeration? Whatever - it's just not true.

And so on - and on - and on. 815 times in one month.

Here's a link

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...-of-donald-trumps-pre-midterm-dishonesty.html

And hearing that Trump is permanently angry these days - what with the Mid-terms, the Veterans Day debacle etc etc - and apparently he just doesn't have any friends to share his problems with. And now - to top it all - following the Jim Acosta 'banning' Fox News are coming out as supportive of Jim Acosta and CNN and critical of Trumpo. Oh good grief - poor Donald will go into meltdown if he thinks that Fox News are turning against him.
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I actually watched Fox News this morning to see if it is as bad as it's made out to be. They had Sarah Huckabee Sanders on and a number of "commentators" who were clearly in the trump camp. It was just nonsense, I had to turn it off after 20 mins, couldn't watch anymore.
 
A funny one today. Ivanka Trump has been caught using her own email account to contact people regarding political matters. This is not allowed as all politicians and advisors emails are archived in case required and so they need to use a govt account. This was the big case regarding Hillary during the election remember. Donald was chanting for Hillary to go to jail for doing this..........Ivanka can hardly claim that she didn't know it was illegal following all of the fuss her dad made.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
A funny one today. Ivanka Trump has been caught using her own email account to contact people regarding political matters. This is not allowed as all politicians and advisors emails are archived in case required and so they need to use a govt account. This was the big case regarding Hillary during the election remember. Donald was chanting for Hillary to go to jail for doing this..........Ivanka can hardly claim that she didn't know it was illegal following all of the fuss her dad made.
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And yet this is the exact defence they’ve gave 🤷‍♂️
 
Cherry13 said:
And yet this is the exact defence they’ve gave 🤷‍♂️
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I know. Funny isn't it?

Someone was talking the other day about how Trump can lie and change opinion like no other politician and people now just shrug the shoulders and carry on. He truly is a teflon President to his supporters.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
A funny one today. Ivanka Trump has been caught using her own email account to contact people regarding political matters. This is not allowed as all politicians and advisors emails are archived in case required and so they need to use a govt account. This was the big case regarding Hillary during the election remember. Donald was chanting for Hillary to go to jail for doing this..........Ivanka can hardly claim that she didn't know it was illegal following all of the fuss her dad made.
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He keeps going on about keeping election promises yet there is still no special prosecutor for Hillary. You have to think that the House will be all over this one.
 
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