Traitors UK 4 - probably spoilers

[D-S]

I’m not sure why the banished/murdered keep on thinking in the Uncloaked interview or reveal that there could be still 4 Traitors left or even more. They have caught 2, there has been no obvious seduction opportunities (they have chosen to murder instead) - did they think there were originally 6 ot more Traitors? The turret isn’t big enough.

 

[Bazz]

Stephen should've gone for what he was wearing.

 

[D-S]

Is it just too obvious that the last 2 into breakfast every time there is a murder must be faithful and must have been part of the 3 likely Traitor’s targets? Is seems to happen every time doesn't it?

 

[larmen]

Is it just too obvious that the last 2 into breakfast every time there is a murder must be faithful and must have been part of the 3 likely Traitor’s targets? Is seems to happen every time doesn't it?

There must be something else like some editing. They pointed this out a couple of years ago so all players should/will be aware of it.
I have no idea how they are doing it, but it must be something. Maybe they film ‘all’ variation after the show is over.

 

[Beedee]

The traitors could stand up and say "Ok, it's us!" and people would still vote for Jade.

(Pinched from a meme I just saw, but so true).

 

[kp17]

 

[larmen]

Be careful on social media people, there is a rumour out there about the final outcome. Don't read any comments on any posts on Facebook.

 

[Tashyboy]

I am always suprised on how people come to there decisions on who they are voting out. A lot seems to be “ herd mentality” and people seem to vote on what has gone off in the previous 24 hours. It seems facts are irrelevant

 

[Neilds]

I am always suprised on how people come to there decisions on who they are voting out. A lot seems to be “ herd mentality” and people seem to vote on what has gone off in the previous 24 hours. It seems facts are irrelevant

But the facts are explicitly shown to us, the viewers, and are edited in a particular way, such as close up on Stephen's face when he starts panicking. When you are in the castle, you may not be looking at a particular person at the right time or might not hear what someone says because you are listening to another person.

 

[doublebogey7]

I am always suprised on how people come to there decisions on who they are voting out. A lot seems to be “ herd mentality” and people seem to vote on what has gone off in the previous 24 hours. It seems facts are irrelevant

What facts have they got to go on, seems to me all they have is peoples reactions to events and they can be interpreted in all manor of ways. Perhaps those experts on here would like to apply for the next series and see how they get on.

 

[Tashyboy]

But the facts are explicitly shown to us, the viewers, and are edited in a particular way, such as close up on Stephen's face when he starts panicking. When you are in the castle, you may not be looking at a particular person at the right time or might not hear what someone says because you are listening to another person.

That’s what I mean, the facts are there but, people don’t pick up on them. Even the traitors state I am under pressure, they know it. But then when it Comes to the nights voting. They don’t get a single vote.
A lot of the voting it seems to me is because they don’t particularly get on with someone.
Rachel said the other night “ I was waiting to see who said the first thing tonight around the table, coz they are the traitor, and the traitor is you coz you spoke first”. Er the first person that spoke was Rachel because she said “ I am not talking first”. plank. But no one picked up on it.

 

[larmen]

What facts have they got to go on, seems to me all they have is peoples reactions to events and they can be interpreted in all manor of ways. Perhaps those experts on here would like to apply for the next series and see how they get on.

The term evidence is used very lightly in that show.

Harriet was right, but luck not evidence. Jessie had more evidence, but it was still 1 in 5 (or 4, depending on the pov) that Stephen was it, especially after Fiona got caught.

 

[doublebogey7]

The term evidence is used very lightly in that show.

Harriet was right, but luck not evidence. Jessie had more evidence, but it was still 1 in 5 (or 4, depending on the pov) that Stephen was it, especially after Fiona got caught.

Evidence is not fact though and there all sorts of other reasons the traiters could have had for the murder that night, the fact they didn't is known to the viewers not the competitors. We see less than 5% of the interactions berween those on the show, what we see as significant is what the editors want us to see.

 

[D-S]

As usual a lot of insightful and funny comments from Richard Osman and Marina Hyde on this week's The Rest Is Entertainment podcast, the Traitors bit is about 26 minutes before the end..

 

[Tashyboy]

What facts have they got to go on, seems to me all they have is peoples reactions to events and they can be interpreted in all manor of ways. Perhaps those experts on here would like to apply for the next series and see how they get on.

It seems Farraz must of read my post on facts, he has proper put Rachel in a corner with the things he said, not just what he said but making sure he had the right audience to hear it

It’s going to be interesting to see how this pans out

 

[Neilds]

It seems Farraz must of read my post on facts, he has proper put Rachel in a corner with the things he said, not just what he said but making sure he had the right audience to hear it

It’s going to be interesting to see how this pans out

They can't murder Faraaz as it would be the end of Rachel, think they have to go for Roxy. Jade and James will get banished in the next couple of round tables so no need to murder them.

 

[RichA]

They can't murder Faraaz as it would be the end of Rachel, think they have to go for Roxy. Jade and James will get banished in the next couple of round tables so no need to murder them.

I think they will do Faraaz and use the lame but usually successful “I’m obviously being framed” defence.
And if another one comes out with the “It must be x because they’re my closest friend and I’m obviously being protected by a traitor” line, something’s getting thrown at the TV tonight.

 

[RichA]

I think I now want Jade to win. Purely because I’m sick of them attacking her with the fact she doesn’t come up with any rational evidential defences to their irrational and baseless accusations.

 

[D-S]

All the idiot Faithful's questions such as - Isn't it great that we made the last 8? or I wonder why I am being kept in? etc. can be answered by "No, its because you're thick and no threat to the Traitors" - (stole this from The Rest is Entertainment).

I think they can get away with murdering Faraaz as the dumb 'its too obvious defence' (as highlighted by RichA above) has worked before for Stephen at least once with these less than bright Faithfuls (with the exception of Farad).

 

[Neilds]

I think I now want Jade to win. Purely because I’m sick of them attacking her with the fact she doesn’t come up with any rational evidential defences to their irrational and baseless accusations.

They have a go at her for defending herself all the time, but when they keep attacking her with no evidence, what do they expect her to say?