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TM Speed blades

louise_a said:
As I am looking to get fitted for new irons I have been trying different clubs, today I tried Orka and Speed blades, I wasn't keen on the feel of the Orkas but thought the SBs felt great. So I had a look at comments about TM clubs on here and found a lot of negative stuff.


So has anyone tried or got Speed blades, if so how do you find them?

Also What have people got against TM?
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Out of interest did you make a note of the shaft?
I only ask because the shaft can change the whole feel of a club, particularly and iron. I have experienced the difference in the Mizuno forged range and also the Titleist AP range. So seriously find out and talk to the Orka fitter, he/she may have a shaft suggestion that makes them feel as nice.... It only depends on looks now as feel, despite being subjective can be found with the amount of choices out there.
 
The only thing about TM that winds me up is when they claim their 7 iron goes further than brand Xs 7 iron, as I am sure they did with one product launch recently. But nowadays Callaway seem to be the main culprits at that. This is also an issue if you go for a fitting and you hit a number of 7 irons, as you are often not comparing like with like. If they say that our 35 degree lofted club with a 36.75 inch shaft goes further than brand Xs 35 degree lofted club with a 36.75 inch shaft and prove it then great.

But Mark Crossfield and I am sure others have proven that if you compare the same loft and shaft length across different manufacturers then the ball will go just about the same distance, give or take a couple of yards. And all the stuff about speed pockets, hot faces, speed frames, amp cell technology etc etc is mostly guff that makes very little difference.

I have several TM clubs and I have no problems with them. As others have said, if the club feels good and you are getting decent distance and also good control then happy days, pile in and invest. Just don't buy a set solely on the basis that the 7 iron goes 8 yards further than another manufacturers 7 iron.
 
the smiling assassin said:
I avoid TM because in recent years their equipment just looks tacky and cheap, but in a way that our society just seems to lap up - very X-Factor'y. Nike are all over this market too and Adams are starting to go down this route with their latest offerings. Callaway went off piste when their X something or other driver arrived, though the new BB's look like a tentative return to former days. It's a fine line with many companies - Ping seem to tread it quite cleverly. Hate to see Mizuno jump on the [RB]Z bandwagon with the EZ range. Titleist seem to be the only mainstream company steering well clear and sticking to high quality 'ordinary' offerings.
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Looks tacky ? Do you mean white ? Because that's the main difference between the clubs - they are white ? Or is it the name that is tacky ?
 
the smiling assassin said:
the whole package, name, look... it's all part of a very clever marketing policy to appeal to the masses who like a bit of glam.
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Glam ?

I didn't purchase the clubs because of any glam - I like the way the white head sits against the white ball - visually makes the ball look easier to hit. The name - they could call it whatever they want - wouldn't make a difference.

Can people really not ignore the marketing ( which it appears works ) and just concentrate of the performance of the equipment ?

TM could bring out a black driver with no adjustment which a normal name and people would still find a problem with it
 
It's the same with plenty of products - for example, I choose to wear inconspicuous Merrell walking shoes rather than white Nike trainers. When buying my next pair i would never consider looking at white Nike shoes just because they might perform their function as a shoe. Nike market their shoes far more aggressively than Merrell do. This doesn't mean I buy into their brand because they're in my face. On the contrary, I prefer to avoid their products – but millions others in the UK think they’re fantastic.
 
the smiling assassin said:
It's the same with plenty of products - for example, I choose to wear inconspicuous Merrell walking shoes rather than white Nike trainers. When buying my next pair i would never consider looking at white Nike shoes just because they might perform their function as a shoe. Nike market their shoes far more aggressively than Merrell do. This doesn't mean I buy into their brand because they're in my face. On the contrary, I prefer to avoid their products – but millions others in the UK think they’re fantastic.
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But the Nike white shoes might perform better than your Merrells ?

Surely the important fact should be performance ?
 
my merrells perform admirably, and its a bonus that i don't have to walk round with a self certifying tick either side of my feet all day!

back to golf manufacturers - do any of the mainstream manufactures perform particularly better than the others? take away cranked lofts and lengthend shafts and it's a pretty level playing field surely. so, performance wise it's all about the swing i put in, not the manufacturer. equipment wise, if it's not about performance, its only about the feel and aesthetics of the equipment. aesthetically TM for me have moved away from what i would consider. but, perceptions will always differ, and the fact there are options to please everyone can only be a positive thing. just because i don't like something doesn't mean i am right and you are wrong. it just means that we have differing tastes.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Glam ?

I didn't purchase the clubs because of any glam - I like the way the white head sits against the white ball - visually makes the ball look easier to hit. The name - they could call it whatever they want - wouldn't make a difference.

Can people really not ignore the marketing ( which it appears works ) and just concentrate of the performance of the equipment ?

TM could bring out a black driver with no adjustment which a normal name and people would still find a problem with it
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Not sure I agree with that statement, the R1 driver in black is head and shoulders above anything else theyve brought out lately IMHO, the only one that I like the look of and would happily have, personally dont like the white, especially not with the added graphics on the crown as per the RBZ (but thats my personal preference)

That said, biggest issue with buying TM woods for me is the shaft options, not a fan of their offerings at all
 
fundy said:
Not sure I agree with that statement, the R1 driver in black is head and shoulders above anything else theyve brought out lately IMHO, the only one that I like the look of and would happily have, personally dont like the white, especially not with the added graphics on the crown as per the RBZ (but thats my personal preference)

That said, biggest issue with buying TM woods for me is the shaft options, not a fan of their offerings at all
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But the only difference between them is the colour - performance will be no different

I like the look of the white heads against the ball - but understand some prefer the traditional look. The good news is there is options for everyone regardless of opinion

Agree about the shaft option - currently trying two new shafts for the R1.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
But the only difference between them is the colour - performance will be no different

I like the look of the white heads against the ball - but understand some prefer the traditional look. The good news is there is options for everyone regardless of opinion

Agree about the shaft option - currently trying two new shafts for the R1.
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You should speak to the Guys on WRX about that, there were some over there claiming it performed differently :rofl:
 
First up - I have a fair amount of TM in the bag. There do seem to be a bunch of people who get very protective of their chosen brand and dismissive of others. As many have posted - the release cycle in several manufacturers does seem to have accelerated, making your new shineys 'not the latest' very quickly. As others have pointed out, this also means that you can pick up the older models at very good prices.

what I know about golf club manufacture would not fill the back of a postage stamp, but I would imagine that given that there are limits on what manufacturers are allowed to do - then well made bats by most manufacturers are going to be much of a muchness in tech terms. I am no psychologist either - but whether (for whatever reason) you feel confident with the bat in your hand does seem to make a difference.

I have rocketbladez - which are 'blessed' with a weird z and make a funny clicking sound if you get one out of the middle (sadly something I do not hear enough). I did not get on with the stock shaft and had something else fitted - and now I like them. I hit some speedblades the other day - and they do look a bit different, and they were on shafts that I did not get on with - so difficult to make a comparison, but I didn't see a big performance difference jump out at me.

So - hit plenty of clubs. Buy one that feels like you hit it well and that you like the look of.

Then go buy lots of lessons and get your swing better!
 
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