Is newer the answer?

[slicer79]

Somebody might be able to interpret these results and advise where I could potentially make gains.
For Christmas I got a PRGR unit which I'm finding very useful at the range.
Anyway today I had my own clubs with me plus a driver borrowed from a friend to try out.

My own is an old Cobra Fly z+ which was fitted for me in 2014 and I've used ever since, with an old Graffalloy blue shaft X flex.
Borrowed club was a Callaway rogue St Max ls with stock shaft stiff.

The results were average swing speed with Cobra of 101mph, with Callaway average of 97mph.
However both clubs carry was practically the same, around the 230 mark.
So I'm trying to figure it all out, swing speed faster with the x-stiff by about 4 mph but no increases in distance which I would have expected. Ball flights looked similar enough to the naked eye.
I'm wondering if it down to the difference between older and newer heads?

It's definitely made me think I need to try a fitting with some modern clubs just to see if I can gain something

 

[Orikoru]

Yeah I would expect the newer head to provide greater distance - hence on this occasion it provided the same distance from a slower swing speed. But the shaft on your old driver is better suited to you, which makes sense because you were fitted for it. And you probably just swing a little faster due to feeling comfortable with that club as opposed to something new.

Would say yes it's worth getting fitted as it's just a case of finding a shaft that's right for you, with the new head.

 

[Neilds]

Newer is always better - haven't you seen the ads?

 

[Klimski]

My clubs are all from around 2010-2014 so very much previous generation. I recently rented a set of brand spanking new TM Qi35's and noticed no real advantage. That said, through trial and error my own clubs are a really good fit. So, as Orikoru says: it's more about fit to you than how new the clubs are. So, get fitted, but make sure they give you your specs instead of just selling you stuff based on the fitting. You need to know your numbers: lie, length, lofts, flex (preferably coupled to actual shafts).

 

[moogie]

Somebody might be able to interpret these results and advise where I could potentially make gains.
For Christmas I got a PRGR unit which I'm finding very useful at the range.
Anyway today I had my own clubs with me plus a driver borrowed from a friend to try out.

My own is an old Cobra Fly z+ which was fitted for me in 2014 and I've used ever since, with an old Graffalloy blue shaft X flex.
Borrowed club was a Callaway rogue St Max ls with stock shaft stiff.

The results were average swing speed with Cobra of 101mph, with Callaway average of 97mph.
However both clubs carry was practically the same, around the 230 mark.
So I'm trying to figure it all out, swing speed faster with the x-stiff by about 4 mph but no increases in distance which I would have expected. Ball flights looked similar enough to the naked eye.
I'm wondering if it down to the difference between older and newer heads?

It's definitely made me think I need to try a fitting with some modern clubs just to see if I can gain something

Clubhead speed isn't only factor in distance.

Ball speed, efficiency (smash factor), spin.....are just other variables

 

[jim8flog]

I would imagine quite a bit of difference in spin rate between the two drivers.
As I understand it manufacturers are trying to get spin rates down on new drivers.

Grafalloy blue X flex and only 101mph. I would be questioning if that is the best shaft fit for you.

 

[slicer79]

I would imagine quite a bit of difference in spin rate between the two drivers.
As I understand it manufacturers are trying to get spin rates down on new drivers.

Grafalloy blue X flex and only 101mph. I would be questioning if that is the best shaft fit for you.

Very possible, when I was fitted in 2014 I think from memory I'd have been up more around a 106 mph swing speed

 

[VVega]

Very possible, when I was fitted in 2014 I think from memory I'd have been up more around a 106 mph swing speed

Even then, S is plentiful in general. What weight is it?

 

[Bobthesock]

Even then, S is plentiful in general. What weight is it?

No disrespect but what makes you think you are more qualified to advise what is the right shaft than an actual fitter? Speed is not the only factor in shaft flex. Thought an expert like you would know that

 

[Oddsocks]

You could have closed the thread at post #3

 

[slicer79]

Even then, S is plentiful in general. What weight is it?

65 gram

 

[Chip&Run]

Newer is only ever the answer

 

[VVega]

No disrespect but what makes you think you are more qualified to advise what is the right shaft than an actual fitter? Speed is not the only factor in shaft flex. Thought an expert like you would know that

Couldn’t agree more. Not advising on the specific fitting, just commented that S is suitable for 106mph in general. Asked about the weight as it’s more important imo.

 

[Dunesman]

How do the smash factor compare ? How do total weight clubhead + shaft compare.
Ligher, can give higher clubhead speed, but lower transfer efficience. Slower with heavier, higher efficiency, conservation of momentum....adding up to same or similar ball speed and distance.