Tiger was doing 87mph in a 45 mph zone

[Lord Tyrion]

Equally possible he’s done it just the once. You’re spot on - we’ll never know, but the suggestion other transgressions may have been brushed under the carpet is perhaps a little bit conspiratorial.

A forum + a conspiracy . Now we are talking

 

[PJ87]

In the USA what is a charge going to do?

A fine? He can afford it
A ban? He ain't driving for a while anyways

 

[stefanovic]

Was he driving an SUV?

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/oct/07/a-deadly-problem-should-we-ban-suvs-from-our-cities

 

[Sats]

The reduction in traffic officer numbers coincided, give or take a year, with the start of austerity.

When I joined traffic in 1999 we routinely covered a considerable chunk of three major motorways and had to ask express permission to leave them for meal breaks or any enquiries we had to make. They were fully and effectively policed.

Roll the clock forward to now and my old department has been dismantled to such an extent that most traffic officers wouldn’t know a tachograph if it bit them on the backside, and my old force does no routine motorway patrols. They are just another force resource used for all manner of incidents.

They were viewed by top brass as a costly luxury, with a small percentage of officers accounting for a huge slice of the budget, and largely wound down. It’s not that many years ago my force insisted on a traffic sergeant being on duty somewhere in the county 24/7 - now you can go days without seeing one.

So your observation is spot on. Traffic is a dirty word in policing circles these days.

Lets not forget that nowadays you can specialised straight out of probation. I know a lad on the ARV's that's never done relief policing! When I joined you couldn't do anything until you had at least 5 years on the streets. Plus there's a lot who think they have entitlements to a break or not work overtime! I remember not being able to sit at the same table as the area car drivers until I had done my IRV course.

 

[Sats]

In the USA what is a charge going to do?

A fine? He can afford it
A ban? He ain't driving for a while anyways

I can't remember exactly which Scandinavian country did it but I believe one charges fines proportionately to your earnings. I want to say Finland but can't be sure.

 

[PJ87]

I can't remember exactly which Scandinavian country did it but I believe one charges fines proportionately to your earnings. I want to say Finland but can't be sure.

There will be ways around it

We have it here in the UK if you speed too high it's % of one month's pay

What was his last month's pay?

If it was % of wealth he would be screwed

 

[Sats]

There will be ways around it

We have it here in the UK if you speed too high it's % of one month's pay

What was his last month's pay?

If it was % of wealth he would be screwed

Imagine that - we're taking your £20 mill mansion Mr.Woods - I definitely think that might change his attitude towards road safety.

 

[PJ87]

Imagine that - we're taking your £20 mill mansion Mr.Woods - I definitely think that might change his attitude towards road safety.

Only way it would actually work with the rich

I remember seeing Paul Konchesky when he played for west ham park in a bus stop to go the local shop, his seat belt was strapped in behind him so the beep would stop

 

[bobmac]

In the USA what is a charge going to do?

A fine? He can afford it
A ban? He ain't driving for a while anyways

There could be a 3rd option...a week in jail, after he's declared fit to serve it by a doctor. That might serve more of a deterent than a $250 fine.

 

[clubchamp98]

Except that it is you who is missing the point; driving under the influence is a reckless, arrogant thing to do. You are not just taking your own life into you hands, you are potentially endangering the lives of other road users. The same thing stands with speeding at close to double the speed limit. It is entirely a selfish thing to do, that does risk other people's lives. Woods did this twice in 4 years.

Surely you don't need to have lost someone due to other drivers selfish actions to know that, but if you had, you certainly would.

My thinking is he’s done it a lot more.
These are just the ones we hear about because he was caught/ crashed.

 

[clubchamp98]

In the USA what is a charge going to do?

A fine? He can afford it
A ban? He ain't driving for a while anyways

Make him resit his test when he passes ban him from the next day / hour of passing.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Except that it is you who is missing the point; driving under the influence is a reckless, arrogant thing to do. You are not just taking your own life into you hands, you are potentially endangering the lives of other road users. The same thing stands with speeding at close to double the speed limit. It is entirely a selfish thing to do, that does risk other people's lives. Woods did this twice in 4 years.

Surely you don't need to have lost someone due to other drivers selfish actions to know that, but if you had, you certainly would.

Have you ever heard the phrase "Never tell a soldier the cost of war"?

I have at no point exonerated, condoned or excused his actions. #109 makes that clear. I have merely tried to provide some context for people who, quite understandably, could not fathom why certain decisions were made. After 30 years of police service, 20 years in Traffic Division, I am more than aware of the dangers you list, and the knock on effects to the families of both offenders and victims, and the cost to those who have to deal with it. Please do not presume to lecture me on something that I am painfully well aware of.

 

[GuyInLyon]

Tiger suddenly realised he was going too fast....

Ha!

 

[4LEX]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9450661/Tiger-Woods-pill-bottle-combative-crash.html

I know it's The Mail but this whole story is fact checked and the investigation borders on laughable at best, corrupt at worst.

Tiger is the best golfer of my generation on the course but off it he's a total scumbag. Not fit to take the major record and due to his own stupidity he won't get the chance

 

[Billysboots]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9450661/Tiger-Woods-pill-bottle-combative-crash.html

I know it's The Mail but this whole story is fact checked and the investigation borders on laughable at best, corrupt at worst.

Tiger is the best golfer of my generation on the course but off it he's a total scumbag. Not fit to take the major record and due to his own stupidity he won't get the chance

Hmmm.

So. You’re willing to call a police investigation conducted several thousand miles away, in a foreign country whose laws differ from ours, “laughable at best, corrupt at worst” based on a few lines in a British newspaper? A British newspaper whose journalists prove time and again, daily, that their standard of so called journalism is, itself, laughable?

That’s laughable.

 

[sunshine]

Hit a fire hydrant in 2009 fleeing from his wife who was trying to get at him with a 9 iron.
DUI in 2017
High speed crash in 2021.
I'm not aware of any others.

3 incidents over 12 years, none similar to the others. Trust me when I say this is not a pattern or continuing behaviour;

Let me add some more behaviour that fits a pattern:
Hooking up with porn stars
Training with the Navy Seals
Travelling by yacht or private jet
Picking up girls every tour stop

The man is a playa - always has been. Speeding is not only acceptable, it is expected of him, he has a rep to maintain.

I just hope when the emergency services rescued him from the wreckage, the speakers weren't damaged and his car was still playing Tupac or Lil Wayne.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Let me add some more behaviour that fits a pattern:
Hooking up with porn stars
Training with the Navy Seals
Travelling by yacht or private jet
Picking up girls every tour stop

The man is a playa - always has been. Speeding is not only acceptable, it is expected of him, he has a rep to maintain.

I just hope when the emergency services rescued him from the wreckage, the speakers weren't damaged and his car was still playing Tupac or Lil Wayne.

All of which may well be true, but for the purposes of determining a pattern of behaviour in relation to the decision as to whether or not to charge him over the incident they are all inadmissible.

 

[Billysboots]

Speeding is not only acceptable, it is expected of him, he has a rep to maintain.

Perhaps one of the more sweeping statements on this thread!

 

[GuyInLyon]

I know it's The Mail but this whole story is fact checked...

Fact checked by whom?

The Daily Mail is so disreputable that the editors at Wikipedia have banned it as a source for their website since 2017.

 

[sunshine]

Perhaps one of the more sweeping statements on this thread!

wooosh

(that was the sound my post made as it flew over your head)
(I felt I needed to clarify that in case the woosh also made a woosh )