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Unfortunately I also agree. If he wins now think of all the negativity that this decision will cause.
Tiger to be DQ'd?
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Unfortunately I also agree. If he wins now think of all the negativity that this decision will cause.
Why when the rules state if he didn't deliberately sign for the wrong score then he didn't do anything wrong and the 2 shot penalty is his punishment.
The last sentence answers many questions
Come on people why on earth would he say what he said in the interview if he deliberately broke the rule? it was a accident and he has been punished within the rules.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Hardly anyone ever deliberatly breaks a rule - that's cheating
Tiger didn't cheat, he broke a rule.
The ruling that has been made is based on whether the player could have known a breach had been made. The best example is Harrington and the moving ball described above. He couldn't have known that the ball moved so under this new rule the shots get added and the is no dq.
COULD Tiger have known he was dropping incorrectly..?
Absolutely
Tiger SHOULD have known he was dropping incorrectly. It's a fundamental rule of golf, he should have known so using this ruling is completely invalid.
Tiger didn't cheat, he broke a rule.
The ruling that has been made is based on whether the player could have known a breach had been made. The best example is Harrington and the moving ball described above. He couldn't have known that the ball moved so under this new rule the shots get added and the is no dq.
COULD Tiger have known he was dropping incorrectly..?
Absolutely
Tiger SHOULD have known he was dropping incorrectly. It's a fundamental rule of golf, he should have known so using this ruling is completely invalid.
Its just the fact mate that those two extra yards were an optimum distance for a wedge he had in he's bag,he would have known this I guarantee you, all they work on out there is distances that's what its all about.I'm looking at it from my perspective having caddied on the European Seniors Tour with these elite players,their brains are constantly computing distances with weight of swing all the time.Tiger took a full swing with that wedge,he knew....
As in the last sentence, if a decision was made prior to Tigers round finishing, why did the ruling and penalty not get announced until today!
I don't believe that Tiger in any way broke the rule on purpose... No way it's not the type of player he is.
So is everyone who is saying he should have been DQ now saying he purposely cheated?
So is everyone who is saying he should have been DQ now saying he purposely cheated?
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
They made what they saw as a non decision ie that his drop was fine, then overnight someone obviously complained about the interview. Then they reconvened this morning and then the penalty got announced
Tiger haters will cling on to anything, its hilarious :rofl:
LIG
Q-School Graduate
:rant:
The advantage gained - an example:
Say you are playing your approach over some trees but catch the top-most branch and the ball goes into an unplayable lie. You then take a drop...but decide to give yourself some margin for error by dropping a couple of yards further back and a yard to the side. That's a shot penalty for playing from a wrong place! If you THEN don't add that penalty shot to your score BEFORE you return your card, that's a DQ penalty. Simple, straightforward, clear and not ambiguous!
Tiger said/admitted in his interview that he played from 2 yards further back AND tv pics show this was not where he should have dropped. Consequently he hasn't leg to stand on. *groan*
People make mistakes, even Pros - so Tiger should live with it! :rant:
Augusta have made liberal use of the leather wedge with this ruling! Shame on them! Sadly, this is just the sort of thing that undermines the integrity and standing of the game as a whole!
The advantage gained - an example:
Say you are playing your approach over some trees but catch the top-most branch and the ball goes into an unplayable lie. You then take a drop...but decide to give yourself some margin for error by dropping a couple of yards further back and a yard to the side. That's a shot penalty for playing from a wrong place! If you THEN don't add that penalty shot to your score BEFORE you return your card, that's a DQ penalty. Simple, straightforward, clear and not ambiguous!
Tiger said/admitted in his interview that he played from 2 yards further back AND tv pics show this was not where he should have dropped. Consequently he hasn't leg to stand on. *groan*
People make mistakes, even Pros - so Tiger should live with it! :rant:
Augusta have made liberal use of the leather wedge with this ruling! Shame on them! Sadly, this is just the sort of thing that undermines the integrity and standing of the game as a whole!
Stuey01
Journeyman Pro
Wow this thread blew up whilst I was on the course - shouldn't you lot be playing golf or something?!
I'm pleased he is still in it, if it is within the rules, as it's a better tournament with him in it.
Sounds like his new rule allowing them to retrospectively apply the correct penalty is a bit of common sense.
I thought it was funny how many people were saying this can't be a story because it's not on sky news, twitter is onto stories so much faster than traditional news outlets these days. Especially when you consider that there is a time difference and all the journo's at Augusta were probably out on a big jolly last night...
I'm pleased he is still in it, if it is within the rules, as it's a better tournament with him in it.
Sounds like his new rule allowing them to retrospectively apply the correct penalty is a bit of common sense.
I thought it was funny how many people were saying this can't be a story because it's not on sky news, twitter is onto stories so much faster than traditional news outlets these days. Especially when you consider that there is a time difference and all the journo's at Augusta were probably out on a big jolly last night...
Are you saying Tiger Woods doesent know the basic rule that you must drop between where you last took your shot and the flag?
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
Indeed. Good post.
I'm not a "Tiger Hater" but I think it stinks, a rule is a rule whether its been broken intentionally or not and they cannot be massaged to suit anyone, they should be rigid!
wookie
Q-School Graduate
Spot on
Are you saying he knew he had broke the rule then admitted it in his interview? :rofl:
It was funny non of the commentators realised what he had done including Monty who has played in many majors.
:rant:
The advantage gained - an example:
Say you are playing your approach over some trees but catch the top-most branch and the ball goes into an unplayable lie. You then take a drop...but decide to give yourself some margin for error by dropping a couple of yards further back and a yard to the side. That's a shot penalty for playing from a wrong place! If you THEN don't add that penalty shot to your score BEFORE you return your card, that's a DQ penalty. Simple, straightforward, clear and not ambiguous!
Tiger said/admitted in his interview that he played from 2 yards further back AND tv pics show this was not where he should have dropped. Consequently he hasn't leg to stand on. *groan*
People make mistakes, even Pros - so Tiger should live with it! :rant:
Augusta have made liberal use of the leather wedge with this ruling! Shame on them! Sadly, this is just the sort of thing that undermines the integrity and standing of the game as a whole!
+1 for me
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
Is that really the rule? I think you may need to re-read it.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
You thought there were a lot of Tiger Haters.
If he doesn't withdraw you'll see a whole lot more.....
He wants to be the Greatest?
Here's his chance to get further up the ladder by withdrawing
