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if he worked on inches he would have a tap in every time, even the pro's arent that accurate all the time.

Whether he gets it right everytime is irrelevent. His short game will be down to small margins, meaning 2 yards back makes a big difference.

If he didn't gain an advantage or seek to, why didn't he hit it from the same distance?
 

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Of course it gained an advantage. If it didn't he would've played from the exact same position.

To the average hacker moving back a few yards makes little difference but Tiger works his chipping on inches. Two yards makes a big difference!
Those two yards are huge,Tiger measured out from the water,added two yards knowing it was a perfect distance for the wedge he has in the bag.
 

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I'm going to buck the trend of everyone that's appalled he wasn't DQ'd and come out and say in glad it was a retrospect penalty and not a DQ. Common sense for once prevailing over archaic and pointless rule as IMO what he did gained no advantage.

Queue people saying I'm a tiger lover and have no respect or idea about the rules of golf. When in fact I'm not his biggest fan and know the rule he has supposedly breached. I simply don't agree with it and if it was anyone I'd feel the same.

I am a Tiger fan , yet he did break the rules, whether I agree with the rule or not makes no difference in my opinion , I did not want to see him DQ but believed that in lines with the rules this is what should of happened.

Like you I think that common sense has prevailed , but the rules don't allow for that (Unless I have missed something ?)

I again believe that Augusta have bottled it on a very big decision and this could go on for ages. I will be interested to hear what Tiger says about it all.
I also will still be watching and cheering for him
 

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look I am no expert so will bow to the forums obvious expertise and experience in the matter. What I am saying is how by dropping in the vicinity albeit slightly further back from his original did he gain an advantage that warrants a dq? Sod playing with half you lot on here, the rule book would be out every 2 minutes :p
 

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I'm going to buck the trend of everyone that's appalled he wasn't DQ'd and come out and say in glad it was a retrospect penalty and not a DQ. Common sense for once prevailing over archaic and pointless rule as IMO what he did gained no advantage.

Queue people saying I'm a tiger lover and have no respect or idea about the rules of golf. When in fact I'm not his biggest fan and know the rule he has supposedly breached. I simply don't agree with it and if it was anyone I'd feel the same.

There's no "supposedly" about it.
He broke a rule - Augusta have admitted that by giving the penalty.
 

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if he worked on inches he would have a tap in every time, even the pro's arent that accurate all the time.

I do believe in his own words he gained an advantage.
He said moving it back 2 yards stopped him hitting the flag again.
Ok this is a sweeping statement,but pros really are that good.
 

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why would anyone actually want him dq'd on here? As a fan of golf I feel a major competition is much the poorer if he isnt in it and contending.

No one kicked up last night after watching him drop and hit his shot, in fact a few commented on what a great recovery after the setback.

Once it was posted online this morning suddenly everyone is quick to jump on their rules is rules bandwagon.

Rule are rules mate, nothing with jumping on bandwagons at all, I said at the time his shot was fabulous to recover and I'm not a woods fan, I even commented that after his bogey on 18 that he was human after all.

Dangerous precedent being set here.
Augusta have bottled it....

Big time

I'm going to buck the trend of everyone that's appalled he wasn't DQ'd and come out and say in glad it was a retrospect penalty and not a DQ. Common sense for once prevailing over archaic and pointless rule as IMO what he did gained no advantage.

Queue people saying I'm a tiger lover and have no respect or idea about the rules of golf. When in fact I'm not his biggest fan and know the rule he has supposedly breached. I simply don't agree with it and if it was anyone I'd feel the same.

Signing for a wrong score is not a stupid rule, dropping the ball in the wrong place is also not a stupid rule either. If he was gaining no advantage then we did he proceed to say in interview why he did it, of course he did it to gain advantage he just didn't realise that he was wrong to do so.

The Masters is better with him in for the weekend that's for sure but for me this Masters will be tainted for this weather Tiger wins or not.
 

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question then. If he goes on to win despite the 2 stroke penalty does that mean he doesnt deserve it and no one will class it as a major win then?

(I dont think he will anyway and in fact probably would hope himself he doesnt now)
 

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http://www.randa.org/en/RandA/News/News/2011/April/Rule-Change.aspx

as i say, not convinced that it should apply here but it does give them some latitude

So where does this ruling fit in then;
6-6
• d. Wrong Score for Hole
The competitor is responsible for the correctness of the score recorded for each hole on his score card. If he returns a score for any hole lower than actually taken, he is disqualified. If he returns a score for any hole higher than actually taken, the score as returned stands

Tiger has signed he's score card for a lower score on a hole,he should have known the rules simple as that.
Its a DQ but its not a DQ cos its Tiger Woods.If he goes on to win which is possible that would ridiculous as theres plenty of guys in that field who play fairly......
 

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If they work on inches then he'd have made sure the first shot landed an inch shorter.

He could have gained a massive advantage by going forward 60 yards and using the drop zone but that's ok because the dumb rule allows a 60 yard gain but not allowing you 2 yards further back!
 

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A point made by @Graeme_McDowell: Take the fact that it was Tiger out of the equation and it is a fair ruling.

I would have thought that if we take the fact that it was Tiger out of the equation ... we get an instant DQ with no debate don't we?

Apparently this is the rule being used: http://t.co/ypNc1ARPyL but I can't see how they're stretching it to fit this scenario.
 

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he has to be DQ'd. podraig was DQ'd for signing his bloody card wrong a few years back. no question ITS THE RULES
 

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look I am no expert so will bow to the forums obvious expertise and experience in the matter. What I am saying is how by dropping in the vicinity albeit slightly further back from his original did he gain an advantage that warrants a dq? Sod playing with half you lot on here, the rule book would be out every 2 minutes :p
Rules are rules mate,where would golf be without them.......
I would have liked to see Tiger bag another major this weekend but after this i'm going with the field.
 

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There's no "supposedly" about it.
He broke a rule - Augusta have admitted that by giving the penalty.

And as I said I'm well aware of the rule but simply don't agree with it. A rule that allows him to go forwards 60 yards legally to a drop zone but not 2 yards further back is a joke. So as per my statement I don't agree with it.
 

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hence why I bow to the foums expertise in these matters.

I still think asking for him to be dq'd is a tad pants though. Anyway 2 shot penalty it is so lets move on

Go Tiger :thup:
 

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Oh well a flag stick has cost him up to 4 shots, if he doesn't win the eventual winner will have that flag stick to thank for the helping hand. If this is what it takes to beat Tiger then that's how it is... he will have another 3 shots this year.
 
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