The relief of finding a lost ball.

[user2010]

I hope you've done the decent thing and D.Q'd yourself after knowingly breaking a RoG and cheated to a Divisional win or Runner up spot or in the Prizes.

 

[guest100718]

The Rules say you must play your ball
If you play a different ball haven't you broken that rule..?

i take your point but as long as you follow the rule and play the correct ball adding the 2 shot pen then you are fine and playing within the rules . in the ops case he found his ball outside the 5 minutes and played it
. that's wrong . very

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I hope you've done the decent thing and D.Q'd yourself after knowingly breaking a RoG and cheated to a Divisional win or Runner up spot or in the Prizes.

What if he was only searching for 4 mins 50 seconds though?

 

[Imurg]

By definition isn't someone who breaks the rules a cheat? Not sure I understand your point? Just asking

Virtually everyone who has ever played golf is a cheat then.......

how's that then .?

Because, according to the post I quoted, anyone who breaks a rule is a cheat.
Virtually everyone who plays golf will have broken a rule at some stage
Therefore every golfer is a cheat......

No... we makes errors and mistakes like play a wrong ball or take a double tap on a little chip.

we then follow the rules and apply them accordingly.

The Rules say you must play your ball
If you play a different ball haven't you broken that rule..?

i take your point but as long as you follow the rule and play the correct ball adding the 2 shot pen then you are fine and playing within the rules . in the ops case he found his ball outside the 5 minutes and played it
. that's wrong . very

As you can see, we're on a side issue here.

If Tashy found his ball after the 5 minutes then there's no discussion to have. The doubt is whether it was actually 5 minutes or a perceived 5 minutes....in the absence of anyone timing the search, the decision as to whether 5 minutes have elapsed is with Tashy.

 

[guest100718]

As you can see, we're on a side issue here.

If Tashy found his ball after the 5 minutes then there's no discussion to have. The doubt is whether it was actually 5 minutes or a perceived 5 minutes....in the absence of anyone timing the search, the decision as to whether 5 minutes have elapsed is with Tashy.

read the op. there is no doubt.

from my point of view it looks like he carried on looking for a ball beyond the 5 mins as until that point he was on for a good score and didn't want it spoiled by what he felt was actually a decent drive.

the efforts of d4s etc to some how exonerate him are quite sad.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Flippin eck whats goin off.

No one else lost a ball thats worthy of talking about 😁

Is the op allowed to get popcorn as well.

Just to clear thngs up from a cheats perspective 😘 The time of five mins was not to a second. Coulda been 5.02 😁

However if we can be serious for a moment ( which narrows it down on here ). You cannot find your ball, or so you think,walk towards your provisional and hey presto stumble across said original ball. What would you do. Back in twenty mins after me fish and chips (butty).

If you know 100% that it's after 5 mins then you keep walking back to the tee - game of trust and all the others in the field rely on everyone being honest and following the rules

 

[Tashyboy]

Oh it was a good drive coz I found it and finished with a par :whoo:

When we had finished, Derek Randall ( ex England international cricketer and 3 X pointless answer on the BBC show ) and the rest of his fourball came in ( about, coz I did not time it ) 25 mins after us. We asked him where they had been. "We stopped for a flask of tea on the back nine and had a natter". Not sure what the R and A ruling is on that one. Am sure someone on here will know though.

 

[Tashyboy]

If you know 100% that it's after 5 mins then you keep walking back to the tee - game of trust and all the others in the field rely on everyone being honest and following the rules

Cheers Phil.👍

Honest thats at my middle name.

 

[3565]

Indeed Phil but you know what it's like on here. Some people just want to suck all the fun out of an amusing story.

Well played Tashy :thup:

Mmm and some just like to suck the life out of anything on here that they don't agree with.

 

[richy]

Would people have the same opinions if it was someone else that started a similar thread?

 

[njrose51]

So you think anytime someone breaks a rule they are a cheat - I played a wrong ball once , broke the rule - am i a cheat ? Once I picked and placed in an area that wasn't closely mown when I thought it was - does that make me a cheat ?

Intentionally breaks the rules = yes. unintentionally breaks the rules = no.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Would people have the same opinions if it was someone else that started a similar thread?

This is a very good point.
Imagine if it was Delc 😱.

 

[Pin-seeker]

So you think anytime someone breaks a rule they are a cheat - I played a wrong ball once , broke the rule - am i a cheat ? Once I picked and placed in an area that wasn't closely mown when I thought it was - does that make me a cheat ?

Did you go to confess your sins after you realised you'd played the wrong ball?

 

[ManinBlack]

No it isnt, but if nobody was looking at a watch, then its guesswork and as long as he is happy and his PP's are happy that it was about 5 minutes, then where is the issue.

or are we now to start a mandatory stopwatch as soon as we arrive to look for our ball? dont forget the time is due to reduce to 3 minutes next year or whenever the proposed new rules come in

Yes, it's the only way.

 

[Green Bay Hacker]

So you think anytime someone breaks a rule they are a cheat - I played a wrong ball once , broke the rule - am i a cheat ? Once I picked and placed in an area that wasn't closely mown when I thought it was - does that make me a cheat ?

Not sure I understand your point there. If you added on the penalty etc you did nothing wrong. If you didn't do anything then you are a cheat.

 

[HankMarvin]

Not sure I understand your point there. If you added on the penalty etc you did nothing wrong. If you didn't do anything then you are a cheat.

100% correct

 

[Dannyj1984]

I was playing well in a round, -1 at the 14th, slcied my tee shot right and couldn't find it so had to play my provisional and ended up with a 7 (+3) coming down the 17th which is adjacent to the 14th found my 14th tee shot in the rough after playing my 2nd shot, was pretty obvious too Ended up coming 3rd in my division by 1 shot

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not sure I understand your point there. If you added on the penalty etc you did nothing wrong. If you didn't do anything then you are a cheat.

This is the post it was in response too

By definition isn't someone who breaks the rules a cheat? Not sure I understand your point? Just asking

So regardless of what penalty shots were added and when - i did break a rule so going by someones definition we all cheat if we break a rule.

 

[chrisd]

My opinion ( for what it's worth)

If you know a rule, break it, don't penalise yourself - its cheating

If you break a rule that you don't know - its not cheating

If you don't learn enough of the rules to play fairly in competitions - you shouldn't enter competitions.

 

[user2010]

If you know 100% that it's after 5 mins then you keep walking back to the tee - game of trust and all the others in the field rely on everyone being honest and following the rules

Which Tashyboy didn't