SwingsitlikeHogan
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Your optimism is touching - however I fear that you will be disappointed because St Johnstone will win it - as any fule kno - though only fules are full of such misplaced and unfounded optimism.
The next PM.
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Your optimism is touching - however I fear that you will be disappointed because St Johnstone will win it - as any fule kno - though only fules are full of such misplaced and unfounded optimism.
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User62651
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No, Johnson's premiership will see a new level of loathing of a political leader. He will pretend it's not there like Trump does, but he will get zero respite.
This in a hung parliament is bad news. He can't call a GE until he's left EU or he'll lose to Farage and he can't leave EU until he gets parliamentary numbers to back him, which he doesn't have. He's in a worse position than May was.
The complexity in para 10, from what I can vaguely remember, is its as long as a piece of string. It is the get out clause that allows both sides to operate under WTO whilst they are still working out the detail of an agreement. Its an agreement in principle thing... complexity in clarifications in para 10 doesn't exist. Its there to give wriggle room to both sides whilst they decide what the questions are.
Doon frae Troon
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And Labour cannot call an election as they will get slaughtered...……...we are doomed a tell you doomed.
A four way clustermuckingfuddle.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
But does he need parliamentary numbers. We are still in the grips of article 50 which many will now regret voting for and is the backstop unless it can be revoked. Unless the remainers can change the legality we will leave whatever huffing and puffing is unleashed. There has been much said about peroging but in reality all it is doing is maintaining the status quo, it changes nothing that has already been agreed and voted for.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Ah Kippers...never mind BJ - back to your DT EU correspondent days making things up - or just one of these quite easy mistakes to make I suppose. Mere detail that it appears that it is the UK that determines the packaging required for products such as your Kipper-in-a-Bag with some coolant/ice when they are business to customer. And was it an I-o-M kipper? Oh never mind - just more detail.
It's a kipper porky but it won't matter a jot as the party faithful lapped it up as an example of EU insanity.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49030873
It's a kipper porky but it won't matter a jot as the party faithful lapped it up as an example of EU insanity.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49030873
Mudball
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The good thing is that BoJo has the full backing of the Orange one from across the pond...
Doon frae Troon
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I hear Johnson is going to launch a 'charm offensive' with a short visit to Scotland to save the Union.
You have to admire his courage......or, will he choose the same isolated Perthshire village hut as May did.
My money is on the village hut.
You have to admire his courage......or, will he choose the same isolated Perthshire village hut as May did.
My money is on the village hut.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Para 10.
The CONTRACTING PARTIES may by a two-thirds majority approve proposals which do not fully comply with the requirements of paragraphs 5 to 9 inclusive, provided that such proposals lead to the formation of a customs union or a free-trade area in the sense of this Article.
In the context of Gatt CONTRACTING PARTIES are all countries signed up to the WTO.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I hear Johnson is going to launch a 'charm offensive' with a short visit to Scotland to save the Union.
You have to admire his courage......or, will he choose the same isolated Perthshire village hut as May did.
My money is on the village hut.
Or maybe he'll get a boat from Anster to the Isle of May...and wave his kipper at the seagulls.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
His entourage would never get past Kirkcaldy
………..they would need to parachute him in. Waving his Flegs as he decends.drdel
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I hear Johnson is going to launch a 'charm offensive' with a short visit to Scotland to save the Union.
You have to admire his courage......or, will he choose the same isolated Perthshire village hut as May did.
My money is on the village hut.
So what is it you want from the potential new PM? If they don't make a trip north you complain of being ignored by Westminster - if they do then you say they'll be met with hostility!
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Well of course he must head north - him being a One Nation Conservative (whatever that means these days I am not so sure). And he will be welcomed with open arms...
Or as Burns wrote about such as Johnson - views that might well still hold for many Scots
Ye see yon birkie, ca'd a lord,
Wha struts, an' stares, an' a' that;
Tho' hundreds worship at his word,
He's but a coof for a' that:
For a' that, an' a' that,
His ribband, star, an' a' that:
The man o' independent mind
He looks an' laughs at a' that.
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Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
How about when they make the trip north they then engage with the public rather than half a dozen Britnat zoomers in a rural village hut.
Speak to the workers rather than the owners of Spirit/Food/Trawler companies or even be so bold as to address the Scottish Parliament.
I might then consider them one nation Tories.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
An his bittrrr toungie booooors us all, an' a that.
Taz
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Quite extraordinary times :
1. This is rather extraordinary - Sir Alan Duncan tells
@bbcnews
he quit govt so he could push for an emergency vote tomorrow, after the next PM is announced, to test if they can hold a majority
2. Duncan makes plain he has held doubts about Johnson's character for a long time, but angrily dismisses suggestions idea of holding a vote on a hypothetical Johnson govt before it's formed was personal - he says it was the way to avoid a much worse crisis in autumn
3. Sir Alan astonished that Bercow has turned his request down, and fears much bigger meltdown after recess when next PM can't hold a majority in the Commons - his critics may reckon he was trying to kill off a Johnson govt before he's even gone to the Palace
1. This is rather extraordinary - Sir Alan Duncan tells
@bbcnews
he quit govt so he could push for an emergency vote tomorrow, after the next PM is announced, to test if they can hold a majority
2. Duncan makes plain he has held doubts about Johnson's character for a long time, but angrily dismisses suggestions idea of holding a vote on a hypothetical Johnson govt before it's formed was personal - he says it was the way to avoid a much worse crisis in autumn
3. Sir Alan astonished that Bercow has turned his request down, and fears much bigger meltdown after recess when next PM can't hold a majority in the Commons - his critics may reckon he was trying to kill off a Johnson govt before he's even gone to the Palace
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
And lob into the majority mix that Tory MP for Dover - Charlie Elphicke - has had the Tory whip removed. Though he'll sit as an independent and will, I am sure, support the government on all matters, I don't think that his vote will count in respect of the formal conservative/DUP party majority in the HoC.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
You could actually have done better than that...
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Thought it was quite good for a sasenac.
O, wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as others see us!
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Applies to every single one of us.
