The next PM.

[Deleted member 15344]

Strong stuff Phil!.... you had a drink?

Not at all - SR on many occasions has posted his distain of the level of people that arrived into the country and the “culture” they have brought and according to him and indeed others the lack of willingness to integrate into the society of the UK - whatever that is.

Country bursting at the seems apparently and it’s that population increase is the reason for all the services being stretched etc - of course it allows someone to ignore the cuts being made all over the place by the Tories

 

[SocketRocket]

He means the “immigrants” prob the Muslim culture as well , everything that is wrong with the country is down to immigrants , those dirty foreigners increasing our population

Muslims? Who mentioned them, I'm not aware they are responsible other than the ones who carried out the autrosities recently.
By culture I mean these feral gangs who are killing each other and anyone else that gets in their way. Also the drug culture that these people are tied into. Many of them appear to be of ethnic origin but I would not label them as 'Muslim'

You really have a big chip on your shoulder.

 

[SocketRocket]

Not at all - SR on many occasions has posted his distain of the level of people that arrived into the country and the “culture” they have brought and according to him and indeed others the lack of willingness to integrate into the society of the UK - whatever that is.

Country bursting at the seems apparently and it’s that population increase is the reason for all the services being stretched etc - of course it allows someone to ignore the cuts being made all over the place by the Tories

Most of that is correct, I do believe multi cultureism is a complete failure and has caused division and a lack of cohesion in society , I also believe we have allowed too much immigration over a short timeframe such that services are stretched but your accusations are just plain over the top.
Regarding the Tory Cuts. We are still borrowing to fill the gap between what we take on tax and what we spend. What do you suggest the government do? Maybe borrow more and then more so your children are left to pay it off.

 

[Hobbit]

In London, 2/3rds of knife crime is carried out by blacks. In the rest of the Uk, 62% of knife crime is carried out by whites. There's a whole host of stats surrounding the issue, but the most reliable is on the Gov's own website.

 

[MegaSteve]

Tashy, the police numbers were being cut by Labour and continued through the ConDem pact. Wasn't all May's doing.

Classic team tory when the wicked finger of failure comes a pointing it'll always be something Labour did or didn't do about two decades back...

 

[SocketRocket]

Classic team tory when the wicked finger of failure comes a pointing it'll always be something Labour did or didn't do about two decades back...

Classic labour denial and distortion of information. I said police cuts had started under Labour and continued with Conservatives and LibDems. Do you deny this is correct?

 

[SocketRocket]

In London, 2/3rds of knife crime is carried out by blacks. In the rest of the Uk, 62% of knife crime is carried out by whites. There's a whole host of stats surrounding the issue, but the most reliable is on the Gov's own website.

This does support my previous comments. I suggested most knife crime is carried out in certain areas and communities. They do seem to be more prevalent where gang and drug culture are rife.

 

[MegaSteve]

Classic labour denial and distortion of information. I said police cuts had started under Labour. Do you deny this is correct?

Everything starts sometime but the speed, depth and zeal applied by team tory, since returning to power, to applying cuts has been ott...

 

[gmc40]

This does support my previous comments. I suggested most knife crime is carried out in certain areas and communities. They do seem to be more prevalent where gang and drug culture are rife.

So let me get this right.

You have suggested knife crime is more prevalent in communities where drugs and gangs are present?

Genius!

Move aside Columbo, Sherlock Holmes and Miss Marple, Socket Rocket has cracked the case!😀

 

[MegaSteve]

Malcolm Rifkind has just delivered a withering condemnation of Boris on the Beeb... Still a mere journalist!

 

[SocketRocket]

So let me get this right.

You have suggested knife crime is more prevalent in communities where drugs and gangs are present?

Genius!

Move aside Columbo, Sherlock Holmes and Miss Marple, Socket Rocket has cracked the case!😀

I was asked in what cultures I referred to so clarified that.

You have added nothing to the discussion . Do you have any views why, or what can or should be done about it. Or! as I suspect you are just trolling.

 

[gmc40]

I was asked in what cultures I referred to so clarified that.

You have added nothing to the discussion . Do you have any views why, or what can or should be done about it. Or! as I suspect you are just trolling.

There’s nothing to add to “the discussion”. You suggested “cultural roots” were a factor in the rise in knife crime. When challenged to explain what you meant, you stated the obvious.

 

[SocketRocket]

There’s nothing to add to “the discussion”. You suggested “cultural roots” were a factor in the rise in knife crime. When challenged to explain what you meant, you stated the obvious.

If it was obvious then why was I asked 🙄

 

[gmc40]

If it was obvious then why was I asked 🙄

Missing the point again.

Stating the obvious in that drugs and gangs contribute to knife crime. Not stating the obvious answer to the question put to you.

You aren’t thick, just obtuse and bigoted. You blame foreigners for all our ills when the evidence suggests otherwise.

Not much else to say really.

 

[SocketRocket]

Missing the point again.

Stating the obvious in that drugs and gangs contribute to knife crime. Not stating the obvious answer to the question put to you.

You aren’t thick, just obtuse and bigoted. You blame foreigners for all our ills when the evidence suggests otherwise.

Not much else to say really.

Obviously not. You come across as another who rather than discuss an issue jump into name calling if the opinion differs from yours; a bit pathetic and juvenile really. Anyhow, if you've nothing better to add best you dont say anymore.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

This does support my previous comments. I suggested most knife crime is carried out in certain areas and communities. They do seem to be more prevalent where gang and drug culture are rife.

Do you not think that the inter gang violence that we are seeing is heavily due to the leafy suburbs demand for powder to suck up their noses and the like?
Its easy to blame a section of society for the effects, but look deeper at the cause.

 

[Hobbit]

Do you not think that the inter gang violence that we are seeing is heavily due to the leafy suburbs demand for powder to suck up their noses and the like?
Its easy to blame a section of society for the effects, but look deeper at the cause.

Victims of drug dealers are to blame? Maybe alcoholics should grass up the pub landlord...

 

[Tashyboy]

Classic team tory when the wicked finger of failure comes a pointing it'll always be something Labour did or didn't do about two decades back...

The thing is though Steve and I could not be bothered to argue the case, if people/ forumers read what the five ex met guys said. Knife crime was just one example of how police cuts have affected policing of the streets. They also stated, People do not feel safe walking on there streets, people do not have any confidence in the police solving crimes. The five guys went into great depth on how falling police numbers is affecting the safety of our society. Labour may well of started cuts, But TM and the Torys have had long enough to reverse the Labour trend. Instead of continuing with more cuts. That aside, more police may help with the fight against knife crime, but that alone won't solve the problem. But more police may well stop anti social behaviour, and it may well make people feel safe going out at night

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Victims of drug dealers are to blame? Maybe alcoholics should grass up the pub landlord...

Depends who you view as the victims. The young impressionable people sucked into that world and used as the mules, or the rich (white probably) person wanting a bit of sniff at the weekend?
Or does that thought line clash with Tory members history?

 

[Hobbit]

Depends who you view as the victims. The young impressionable people sucked into that world and used as the mules, or the rich (white probably) person wanting a bit of sniff at the weekend?
Or does that thought line clash with Tory members history?

99.99% of people know the difference between right and wrong, and learn that from a very early age. Dealing, and getting involved in distribution, is clearly wrong/illegal. Using is just plain stupid.

But here's a question back at you; is it the Tories who promote legalisation or the lefty/liberals?

The problem is way too complex for simple generalisations you appear to promote. If a backstreet kid wants an iPad etc, yet comes from a poor background, where can he get the money? What's the easiest way to make decent money when you've skipped school, and there's few opportunities around?

Its a materialistic society.

Having created the environment for drugs to prosper, taking away one of the major checks to its promotion, i.e. policing, what do people expect to happen?