The next PM.

Why do you think they are any more prepared than us Paul?
Because they have been all along, Cameron refused to allow any planning for a no vote, within hours of the vote being released the remaining EU Leaders issued a statement on the UK/EU future, we went through turmoil, DC resigned and then a GE, all the while the EU were planning the negotiations.
They very much show a joined up picture (even if they aren’t) TM lost negotiators, Cabinet Ministers, etc etc.
I’d like to believe I’m wrong, just recent history says otherwise.
 
Everyone is quoting the 160k membership of the Tory Party [inc me] when in reality the official number is 124k
That is for the whole of the UK not like the SNP who have roughly the same number of members in Scotland alone.
Population of Scotland is about 11% of the UK.
I wonder how many of those actual Tory members will vote, I would guess about 60%.
Add to that a recent poll which stated that about 60% of those Tory members would be happy to destroy the Union, the UK economy and even the Tory party to get Brexit through.
Seriously scary stuff. Britain is about to be destroyed by about 44,000 right wing extremists.
 
Everyone is quoting the 160k membership of the Tory Party [inc me] when in reality the official number is 124k
That is for the whole of the UK not like the SNP who have roughly the same number of members in Scotland alone.
Population of Scotland is about 11% of the UK.
I wonder how many of those actual Tory members will vote, I would guess about 60%.
Add to that a recent poll which stated that about 60% of those Tory members would be happy to destroy the Union, the UK economy and even the Tory party to get Brexit through.
Seriously scary stuff. Britain is about to be destroyed by about 44,000 right wing extremists.
Give it a rest! It’s insulting and inflammatory.
 
Because they have been all along, Cameron refused to allow any planning for a no vote, within hours of the vote being released the remaining EU Leaders issued a statement on the UK/EU future, we went through turmoil, DC resigned and then a GE, all the while the EU were planning the negotiations.
They very much show a joined up picture (even if they aren’t) TM lost negotiators, Cabinet Ministers, etc etc.
I’d like to believe I’m wrong, just recent history says otherwise.
My view is that the EU are just basically saying no to every request we make in the belief that they will beat us into submission and we withdraw A50. If/when we do finally leave it will come as a bit of a shock to them if it's with no deal and they suddenly start to panic over their 24 billion of German car exports.
 
My view is that the EU are just basically saying no to every request we make in the belief that they will beat us into submission and we withdraw A50. If/when we do finally leave it will come as a bit of a shock to them if it's with no deal and they suddenly start to panic over their 24 billion of German car exports.
If you’re right that makes TM even worse, she should of had the backbone to walk away, she’d probably still be PM if she’d done that.

My issue with simply walking away is that without at least a plan they hold as many cards as us.
 
Indeed - I guessed as much - that you wouldn't remember talking of how of course there was a plan but the government couldn't possibly release it - but I do.

No matter. No point in labouring the point as there is no point in trying to convince some leave voters that No Deal really isn't a good idea.

Meanwhile back in cloud Tory-Land polls reveal that 51% of Tory Party Members (these people being who will provide us with the next PM) voted for TBP in the EU Elections - just who we should put our faith in to choose the next PM - the PM that will reunite the country. And 63% of the same individuals are happy to see the break up of the UK as a result of leaving the EU.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...ould-sacrifice-union-if-it-meant-brexit-being

Ah well. That's your Tory Party membership for you. Besides - these are only polls and predictions - can't trust them - been wrong in the past. Taking back control and handing it over to 160,000 Tory Party Members and a PM called Boris - don't you just love it.
Looks like we have to relive the diatribes you were spewing out three years ago. And! You must have been dreaming if you think I would give you any reassurances about politicians plans. The vacation did nothing to declutterr your Brexit obsessive disorder then.
 
Looks like we have to relive the diatribes you were spewing out three years ago. And! You must have been dreaming if you think I would give you any reassurances about politicians plans. The vacation did nothing to declutterr your Brexit obsessive disorder then.

Same old same old condescending dismissals - but I ain't bothered.

Which part of what I posted do you disagree with?

I'm not surprised by the poll results given the post EU referendum poll that indicated 51% of Tory Party members voted Brexit Party - and in this survey published today nearly 50% of Tory Party members would have Farage as Tory Party Leader,

Conservative and Unionist party? Looking forward to hearing the candidates respond to the findings of the poll; unlike most opinion polls a poll of 900 is not actually an insignificant percentage of the membership - especially given that the poll is of a very specific part of the electorate.
 
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Same old same old condescending dismissals - but I ain't bothered.

Which part of what I posted do you disagree with?

I'm not surprised by the poll results given the post EU referendum poll that indicated 51% of Tory Party members voted Brexit Party - and in this survey published today nearly 50% of Tory Party members would have Farage as Tory Party Leader,

Conservative and Unionist party? Looking forward to hearing the candidates respond to the findings of the poll; unlike most opinion polls a poll of 900 is not actually an insignificant percentage of the membership - especially given that the poll is of a very specific part of the electorate.
I disagree with just about everything you posted.

Regarding this current post, I have no interest in any of it as its just a continued white noise.
 
Same old same old condescending dismissals - but I ain't bothered.

Which part of what I posted do you disagree with?

I'm not surprised by the poll results given the post EU referendum poll that indicated 51% of Tory Party members voted Brexit Party - and in this survey published today nearly 50% of Tory Party members would have Farage as Tory Party Leader,

Conservative and Unionist party? Looking forward to hearing the candidates respond to the findings of the poll; unlike most opinion polls a poll of 900 is not actually an insignificant percentage of the membership - especially given that the poll is of a very specific part of the electorate.

Yes, they have to drop the Unionist name from their party now or fall foul of the trades description act. ;)
 
Future PM debate.

Q1 - can you guarantee leaving EU on 31.10.19?

Right from the off 4 could not guarantee, just waffled round it pretending they can somehow renegotiate the WA, RStewart at least said no.

Usual political noise. Tedious.

3 questions asked, none of the questioners have had their questions answered so far.

Mattis needs to start embarrassing them more when they will not answer direct questions.
 
Understanding why team Boris are so keen to keep him locked away after that ramble about islamaphobia. Not good.
 
Oh hells teeth that was dire. I can't think of anything from any of them that really that made me think - oh that was good - or - oh that was bad. And I was watching as an interested observer wanting to hear something that gave me an inclining of hope.
 
To think how many people actually vote conservative. You’d think they’d be utterly ashamed but sadly not, they’ve brainwashed themselves.
 
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