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Probably not, but Lee Janzen with 2 US Opens probably does
Also wouldn't count Janzen as one of the "greats"
Also wouldn't count Janzen as one of the "greats"
Mastercracker
Assistant Pro
Me neither, I was just being facetious. Monty was imo a much better player and over a longer period of time than Janzen, and many of the other 1 or 2 major wonders you could name. Winning 1 or 2 majors alone does not make you a 'great' in my book, but by the same taken you do have to be a major winner to be classed as a great. Monty's other achievements were outstanding and those combined with 1 major would have made him a great, but the fact he could never get over the line rules him out.
Dan2501
Tour Winner
Well and truely in the Masters spirit. Just ordered this seriously sexy headcover for my SLDR Hybrid:
who you referring to?
My point was an individual with many PGA tour wins, topping money lists and bagging 1 major wouldnt make this person a great player in your eyes?
Foxholer
Blackballed
I watched 10 mins, before the par 3 comp started where Monty was with Sarah Stirk explaining the intricacies of one of the par 3 putting greens. With that very clever raised image of the green and bunkers.
I thought Monty was brilliant in his description of how a top golfer plans his strategy on the greens.
Can't see how he gets so much stick on here as it's enlightening to listen to the thoughts of one of the greats of the game.
Long may he continue with Sky.
Possible because much of commentary in the past has involved him talking about 'May (sic) Team'! I agree that his technical analysis is great - and that he was/is a great player - in spite of his failure to win a major! He's certainly a better player than some of those that have won majors,so winning a major isn't essential/doesn't define a great player imo - though it certainly 'scores points'!
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For me to be one of the games great first and foremost must contain multiple major wins to his name - that's where the name is made - on the biggest stage in golf
Dan2501
Tour Winner
I'm with Phil. I'll never see a player without a major win as a great of the game. Monty, Westwood, Sergio, Donald all very good players, but not greats.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
What about one major wonders? Played well for four days and won a major but with careers far inferior to the likes of Monty and Westwood, especially with their RC pedigree as well. Todd Hamilton a better player?
so Rory wasn't 'great' until Major number 2?
Dan2501
Tour Winner
Didn't say that. A major makes a career if a player has the tournament wins to back it up, but a one-major wonder isn't a great player. Great players win loads on Tour, and then win the big tournaments to back it up. Monty and Westwood are good players, and better players than Todd Hamilton, but they're not "greats of the game" for me.
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He hasn't even got started yet and will end up one of the games great IMO
you avoided answering the question- you don't work for the SNP by any chance?
Stuey01
Journeyman Pro
Hardly ever gamble but like a little bet on the masters. Can't wait for things to get going now.
Just put £50 down spread across the following:
McIlroy to win outright.
Then e/w punts on:
Day
Walker
Speith
D Johnson
Koepka
Just put £50 down spread across the following:
McIlroy to win outright.
Then e/w punts on:
Day
Walker
Speith
D Johnson
Koepka
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Deleted member 15344
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Look it's all opinions - i don't class someone who has never won a major as one of the greats in the game - McIlroy was destined to be one of the greats from when h burst on the scene of he full filled his potential - he is doing and will be remembered as one of the greats of the game when he finishes his career - the same with Els , Singh , Mickleson and others who have won multiple majors to back up stellar tour careers
You or anyone doesn't have to follow that set of guidelines - it's all about your own opinion
Monty was an excellent golfer - will be remembered as one of the best seen on the Eurooean Tour
yes it is, but you set out your stall stating anyone who hasn't won multiple Majors isn't great in your eyes. As you didnt have a time machine you didnt know what McIlroy would achieve after Major 1.
So in your eyes he wasn't great at that stage? yes?
Just clarifying, but it was just my opinion that Monty was/is great then you came out with some formula
p.s I don't regard Singh as a great, I dont even rate him as good- but there are many factors that preclude him in my eyes
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yes it is, but you set out your stall stating anyone who hasn't won multiple Majors isn't great in your eyes. As you didnt have a time machine you didnt know what McIlroy would achieve after Major 1.
So in your eyes he wasn't great at that stage? yes?
Just clarifying, but it was just my opinion that Monty was/is great then you came out with some formula
p.s I don't regard Singh as a great, I dont even rate him as good- but there are many factors that preclude him in my eyes
The post you replied too explains my opinion clear as day -:thup:
Now back to 2015 Masters
Dan2501
Tour Winner
SVB
Challenge Tour Pro
In interview think he said he was off 12 /13 but even so - apparently Rory is going to sign a few lines at a 1D concert later in the year. Sounds like a good idea after the 4th pint but .............
Hope he didn't break Rory's driver when he fell over.
I thought that - Rory said something like 'I thought I "stick" him with the full bag' so perhaps part of the 'caddy for a day' experiance rather than a wedge and a putter which seem to be what most of the Pro's kids are carrying.
Fishwick
Hacker
Yeah I found it hard to believe that he was that low.
rksquire
Head Pro
To be fair I think he was bricking it and visually it was all water - and I've seen plenty of guys that low and lower play equally bad shots. I'm not much worse than that at 14 and I can play some stinkers.
