Not really. Only about 2 from 3 if a good putter.
The great drive for dough putt for show debate thread.
Bobthesock
Active member
Without wanting to upset anyone I play off 8 and have been down to 6.5. That's mainly due to amazing putting. I carry the ball 200-220 so it can get to 250+ on a dry course.
If you want to get to old cat 1 level I reckon you need a 240 carry. To get to single figures 200 is plenty
If you want to get to old cat 1 level I reckon you need a 240 carry. To get to single figures 200 is plenty
Steve Wilkes
Well-known member
Tour pros are 50/50 from 7ft 10" so if us mere mortals going by a lot a posts are also doing this, then I think distance especially off the is more important
Bobthesock
Active member
Important to what? Breaking 70? 80? 90?
As I've tried to point out you only need length if you want to shoot low to mid 70s.
To improving ones golf.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
You can hit it anywhere you like on a course.
but if you knock loads of putts in it can mask a poor long game.
but you need to get on the greens to have any chance of scoring.
so both 50/50 important for me.
but if you knock loads of putts in it can mask a poor long game.
but you need to get on the greens to have any chance of scoring.
so both 50/50 important for me.
Bobthesock
Active member
Like I said I can shoot 70s at most courses in England with average driving. Can you with poor putting?
Certainly. More easily than you can with poor driving.
Bobthesock
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I think we are mistaking poor driving with short driving.
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I do most rounds.
I’m basically the opposite of you. A longish game with poor putting.
I wasnt. I did mean poor driving. As in, its easier to shoot in the 70s with average driving and poor putting, than it is with average putting and poor driving.
Bobthesock
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Who's better then?
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Deleted member 1147
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I play off 2
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Deleted member 29109
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Distance is easy to define. But what defines good putting? And how do you get better at it so it constantly makes up for a poor long game?
Strokes Gained is the best measure.
You can improve it, mainly through improved distance control and avoiding of missable second putts. But you can never make it good enough to make up for a poor long game. There just isnt enough scope in putting, and it isnt controllable enough.
Springveldt
Well-known member
You must play with good putters then if they are 50/50 from 6 feet.
I think if you tracked your game through ShotScope or something similar then you would find that your long game is better than you give it credit for and your putting isn’t making up as much as you think unless you putt like a tour pro every time you are on the course.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Touché.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
It’s very very rare for all parts of my game to be top class on the one day.
but when it has been I have won.
this is true for most golfers imo.
so all parts have to work and no part is more import than another.
but when it has been I have won.
this is true for most golfers imo.
so all parts have to work and no part is more import than another.
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I think some of you guys would learn a lot from watching some high level amateur seniors events. Lots of those guys don't hit the ball any distance at all but they play to very low handicaps. The English seniors balloted out at 3 last year, the British Seniors was +0.4 I think. Not bad for guys that hit the ball 230-240 yards.
Parkstone hold 2 scratch events, the Wimborne cup for men and the Shankland for seniors. Both played off the very back tees, similar course setup etc. The Wimborne was won with level par, the Shankland was won with 2 under. So much for the kids bombing it 300 yards.
Parkstone hold 2 scratch events, the Wimborne cup for men and the Shankland for seniors. Both played off the very back tees, similar course setup etc. The Wimborne was won with level par, the Shankland was won with 2 under. So much for the kids bombing it 300 yards.
King Julian
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King Julian notes that like so many others in this thread weewullie has completely failed to grasp the point being made. It's not about hitting the ball a long way but simply improving your overall distance will brings gains for many.
