THE GOLF "SEASON"

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My club is quite capable of having comps all season but doesn’t. Last comp is next week.
Then winter work begins with improvements and movements of bunkers. Tarmac placing, couple of new tee boxes. New season due to start in March.

On the fence whether I want the break or not. Mrs has been at my throat all season. 64 qualifiers played. Quite a few away ones and two pro ams. Couple that with overtime and I’m shattered.

For those who have minimal comps, I do feel sorry for you.
 

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We run comps all year although for a bizarre reason they don't run medals from November-February and it's all stableford. I'm pleased we get to play all year round and wouldn't really want to be at a club that has a "season". If we get bad weather the comps simply revert to non-qualifiers
 
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For the past couple of weeks our course has looked and played as well as it has for as long as I've been a member there. The greens have rolled beautifully and the aprons and surrounds are brilliant. Loads of lush new growth on the fairways too. I'm just so P**ed off that the "season" ended at the start of the month and we now have to wait for the end of March for another qualifier. Selfishly it's coincided with some good play too but surely a decision could be made to extend the season , if you really need to have a season, until 1st of December at he earliest. Maybe it's global warming but I can't remember ever having an October or November competition weathered off. Rant and frustration over but would be keen to hear others views and thoughts.
Sorry, slightly confused, do you still have non-qualifying comps in the winter? and if so, what makes them non-qualifiers?
Our comps stay as qualifiers until the weather dictates otherwise and we move to the winter tee boxes and tee up on the fairways.
 

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Sorry, slightly confused, do you still have non-qualifying comps in the winter? and if so, what makes them non-qualifiers?
Our comps stay as qualifiers until the weather dictates otherwise and we move to the winter tee boxes and tee up on the fairways.
This except we still play off the full course (winter rules applied) and the only time it's a non-qualifier is if we go onto temps because of frost/ice. I get it if a club is using mats, teeing it up or moving it to the rough to protect the course over the winter and so anything is a non-qualifier. Are there any clubs that don't make concessions but still don't run qualifiers over the winter?
 

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How do yea all manage timsheet wise in the short days , do ye have low membership numbers or just not many playing in comps , last tee time in winter for 18 must be what .?midday?
 

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How do yea all manage timsheet wise in the short days , do ye have low membership numbers or just not many playing in comps , last tee time in winter for 18 must be what .?midday?
I think it's one of the reasons we only run one comp a month in the winter. Basically that will take out tee times from first light until about 11.30-12.00 and so casual golfers won't really get much of a look in on those days. At least they then get three weekends a month free to play socially. We don't have tee times so it's first come first served
 

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I think it's one of the reasons we only run one comp a month in the winter. Basically that will take out tee times from first light until about 11.30-12.00 and so casual golfers won't really get much of a look in on those days. At least they then get three weekends a month free to play socially. We don't have tee times so it's first come first served
Hi Martin I think that's the main reason behind 13 hole comps over here ,it means most will get out to play , don't think many would accept 18hole but very limited time sheet , i even asked was it possible to have some early tee time 18 hole qualifiers and late 13 hole comps for those that didn't want qualifiers , was told NO evey1 had to have same opportunity
 

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We were chatting about this yesterday. Our qualifiers finished yesterday. Next week onwards is winter tees, Stableford comps only. We don't have winter greens so I asked why they are non qualifiers. Apparently we will be able to lift and clean. It's an arbitrary decision I suppose but everyone knows where they stand and the competitions are there every week still. It's just that your handicap won't change. No big deal.

In answer to bladeplayer, small membership, small numbers playing comps.
 

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We were chatting about this yesterday. Our qualifiers finished yesterday. Next week onwards is winter tees, Stableford comps only. We don't have winter greens so I asked why they are non qualifiers. Apparently we will be able to lift and clean. It's an arbitrary decision I suppose but everyone knows where they stand and the competitions are there every week still. It's just that your handicap won't change. No big deal.

In answer to bladeplayer, small membership, small numbers playing comps.
Am I mistaken and clearly from your post I am, but if you have pick and place (assuming it's on fairways only) does it automatically become a non-qualifier?
 

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i genuinely wish we could record every score towards a HC calculation.

It just seems wrong that only club members get them from playing Q comps.

I am a club member but I’ll say about 90% of my golf is not in a comp

There must be a way to incorporate more scores, thus increasing HC accuracy.

Obviously trust is a huge element of this.

Trust does already govern a huge amount of out game already though.

On the assumption that you are a member of a CONGU affiliated club with a handicap 6 or over it is perfectly possible to have every round count towards your handicap, just submit a Supplementary Score every time you play as long as you play with a marker.
 
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We were chatting about this yesterday. Our qualifiers finished yesterday. Next week onwards is winter tees, Stableford comps only. We don't have winter greens so I asked why they are non qualifiers. Apparently we will be able to lift and clean. It's an arbitrary decision I suppose but everyone knows where they stand and the competitions are there every week still. It's just that your handicap won't change. No big deal.

In answer to bladeplayer, small membership, small numbers playing comps.
I think it can still be a qualifier with lift and clean, but if the winter tees are way forward and the course is shortened by a “certain” measurement it is that that would make the comps non-qualifiers.
 

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We were chatting about this yesterday. Our qualifiers finished yesterday. Next week onwards is winter tees, Stableford comps only. We don't have winter greens so I asked why they are non qualifiers. Apparently we will be able to lift and clean. It's an arbitrary decision I suppose but everyone knows where they stand and the competitions are there every week still. It's just that your handicap won't change. No big deal.

In answer to bladeplayer, small membership, small numbers playing comps.

A competition with lift clean clean and place is allowable for a qualifying competition.

If you are playing from winter tees it is still possible providing

13.1 When, to allow for the use of temporary, or alternative, tees and not more than two temporary greens:
- the length of a course has been reduced or increased by not more than 100 yards from the length of the Measured Course, the Standard Scratch Score remains unaltered;
you have a measured course from those tees

Or you have a measured course certificate for your winter tees ( which we have for our course).
 

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Plugged balls, no bounce and the rest of the winter malarkey make me happy we have a season.

Maybe its different down south in England but I can't be bothered to play comp golf till the conditions are at least half decent.

We take trips to the links for a bit of respite over the winter months.
 

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A competition with lift clean clean and place is allowable for a qualifying competition.

If you are playing from winter tees it is still possible providing

13.1 When, to allow for the use of temporary, or alternative, tees and not more than two temporary greens:
- the length of a course has been reduced or increased by not more than 100 yards from the length of the Measured Course, the Standard Scratch Score remains unaltered;
you have a measured course from those tees

Or you have a measured course certificate for your winter tees ( which we have for our course).
That makes sense. We play off the whites so the course definitely wouldn't be reduced by more than 100 yards and is a measured course. I thought we played qualifiers and it affected handicap but that other post got me questioning myself. Means the stableford this weekend will count then so another great chance for a cut
 

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Am I mistaken and clearly from your post I am, but if you have pick and place (assuming it's on fairways only) does it automatically become a non-qualifier?
I'll not quote all the other posters as well who have commented on this, but thank you. I don't know is the simple answer. When I asked the question about nq the golf manager mentioned lift and clean. I just assumed that triggered nq as that was all that he said. Maybe something else happens as well, I really don't know.

From my own point of view it doesn't bother me so I asked him out of interest, not to demand that they become qualifiers. Another learning day on here though (y)
 

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I'll not quote all the other posters as well who have commented on this, but thank you. I don't know is the simple answer. When I asked the question about nq the golf manager mentioned lift and clean. I just assumed that triggered nq as that was all that he said. Maybe something else happens as well, I really don't know.

From my own point of view it doesn't bother me so I asked him out of interest, not to demand that they become qualifiers. Another learning day on here though (y)
I'd go back and ask again and quote jim8flog. If your course isn't significantly reduced in length then I don't understand what criteria other than laziness/stubborness would prevent you not having qualifiers in the winter
 

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I'll not quote all the other posters as well who have commented on this, but thank you. I don't know is the simple answer. When I asked the question about nq the golf manager mentioned lift and clean. I just assumed that triggered nq as that was all that he said. Maybe something else happens as well, I really don't know.

From my own point of view it doesn't bother me so I asked him out of interest, not to demand that they become qualifiers. Another learning day on here though (y)
If you have the standard 'winter rules' in place you can run them as Q; if you have lift clean and place through the green you can't.
 

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Always thought the playing season should run right upto November and start again in March, allows for the real winter time and prolongs the playing season.

Most clubs will still run monthly medals etc that allows for a cut but not much increase.

I always liked the idea of a competitive and non competitive season when I was playing junior and intermediate golf, felt like there was something more to the game then bit like the pro's. Could then use the winter to play about work on the game and try to get that bit better.

Plus this year it's great for me as we move on 30th November to Lincoln so a non playing season gives me chance to start playing properly, get a handicapand bed in at a new club before I take part in anything competitive.


I made the great trek North from Essex nearly 6 years ago and have never looked back. Have you sourced a new club yet ?
 

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I made the great trek North from Essex nearly 6 years ago and have never looked back. Have you sourced a new club yet ?
How have you found the move? And where did you settle in the end..

Been looking pretty much everyday at my options, my Mrs thinks I care more about than our actual new home.. she's probably right :ROFLMAO:

We're settling in Billinghay, so my nearest and best options are South Kyme & Woodhall Spa. Had some good info off of Lincoln Quaker about Woodhall, but South Kyme that bit closer and is perhaps edging it with the social aspect for my partner and family. But any ideas on those or other options gladly accepted.
 

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We run comps all year although for a bizarre reason they don't run medals from November-February and it's all stableford. I'm pleased we get to play all year round and wouldn't really want to be at a club that has a "season". If we get bad weather the comps simply revert to non-qualifiers
Ours is the same, I think it's a good idea as it's more forgiving - if you have a nightmare hole because of the conditions, you can just write it off and move on. If you were playing a medal but got stuck in a frozen/soaked bunker or plugged in some mud in the rough then that would be card ruined.
 
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