The future of golf clubs ??

[richart]

Without calling anyone a liar because I'm sure everything posted is an honest and sincere opinion, I very much doubt that ALL new members are made aware of and welcomed into many of these roll ups.....

I knew there were roll ups during the week, most Clubs seem to have them, so originally applied as a 5 day member. When I had my interview ooo I was advised there was one on a Saturday as well, so joined as a 7 day member. I wanted to meet new members easily, and not hang around the first tee hoping for a game.

Obviously high handicappers, and those without a home counties accent are not told about roll ups.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Women and juniors too? Or is yours another club that prefers them playing during the week?

I'm not being funny FD but what is the problem here? Anyone who wants to play plays. Women and juniors rarely show up at 730 on Saturday and Sunday mornings but on the odd occasion they have, they have played.

 

[Val]

At The Warwickshire who use the Intelligent Golf system, it just states "Booked" in the general play booking area which I'm uncomfortable with, if I could at least see the members names I could look them up in the handicap list but being blind I could end up adding my name to 3 young Cat1's having a knock and then an old chomper like me turns up, I don't like this lack of transparency!

Surprised at that Wallasey have the same system and it displays names

 

[Doon frae Troon]

There are 60 million golfer in the world and they all want to play one course..........St Andrews Old

and.....they all want to tee off at 10am.


Another wee story......been told on here before so apologies.

1976 Swindown Council interview 12 professionals for their new Hawtree course. 100's apply as it is obviously going to be a 'good earner..

Pre-interview they tell the professionals to come along with a booking system for the course.

One of the interview questions was 'The course is fully booked on a Sunday morning and the Chief Exec of the Council turns up with a VIP guest and wishes to play..........what would you do?

One Pro says 'I would tell them, sorry but the course is fully booked and would then congratulate him on the great decision they made to build such a successful course.'
Eleven pro's say 'we would squeeze him in'.

Guess who got the job and stayed there for 37 years. Eventually ending up an Hon Member of the PGA.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

They are being treated differently and no doubt expected to behave like "adults".

If it was me and I was in my teens (the black & white days) then I would not be happy to join a club with that system

No problems - then I'm sure they can pay the same fees as the adult members :thup:

We have a number of teens at the club and they don't seem to have an issue

And they are expected to behave in a pleasant manner towards others and are given leeway by older members in regards etiquette etc

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Women and juniors too? Or is yours another club that prefers them playing during the week?

Which club prefers ladies play during the week ?

And how can juniors play during the week when they are at school ?

 

[FairwayDodger]

I'm not being funny FD but what is the problem here? Anyone who wants to play plays. Women and juniors rarely show up at 730 on Saturday and Sunday mornings but on the odd occasion they have, they have played.

Just trying to find out how these things work. It sounds to me that clubs without TBS but with roll ups hogging the prime weekend slots are possibly not being fair to all the members. happy to learn otherwise....

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What's all this "hogging" prime slots about ?

If there is no tee booking how can someone "hog" a slot when anyone can turn up and play ?

 

[FairwayDodger]

Which club prefers ladies play during the week ?

And how can juniors play during the week when they are at school ?

And how can they play on Saturday morning when its against the constitution? It's a wonder you have any juniors.

 

[richart]

But..........what would you do if they did.








Serious question.

Being very popular I would get invited to play and tee off straight away.








Not a serious answer.

It just doesn't happen, because members want to play at different times. If you asked when forumers like to play during the day, I am sure you would get a wide range of times. As a member you get to know busy times pretty quickly, and I personally tend to avoid those. Busy is relative, tens of minutes not hours.

 

[FairwayDodger]

What's all this "hogging" prime slots about ?

If there is no tee booking how can someone "hog" a slot when anyone can turn up and play ?

Except juniors and ladies 'cos they play Tuesday's?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Just trying to find out how these things work. It sounds to me that clubs without TBS but with roll ups hogging the prime weekend slots are possibly not being fair to all the members. happy to learn otherwise....

If we have members wanting to go out before our roll up on either a Saturday or Sunday, and they do, especially if there are knockout matches to be played but also socially, it makes perfect sense to let them go first rather than wait behind a host of three or four balls especially if they are a two ball. It really is a lot simpler than people are making out and that rare commodity "common sense" does happen. If there were a couple of groups they'd definitely be asked if they fancied joining in the roll up, especially if they are newbies

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And how can they play on Saturday morning when its against the constitution? It's a wonder you have any juniors.

They play after 11 on Saturdays or on a sunday

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Just trying to find out how these things work. It sounds to me that clubs without TBS but with roll ups hogging the prime weekend slots are possibly not being fair to all the members. happy to learn otherwise....

How can it not be fair when anyone is free to turn up and play when they want. There seems to be an awful lot of wrong assumptions going on about clubs without TBS, like somehow those who turn up to play in a roll up are someone banishing everyone else from the course. It really doesn't happen like that in my experience, if that was the case I, as someone who joins clubs on their own, would never get a game.

P.S. Just to explain a bit more how it works at RAGC. We meet in the clubhouse somewhere between 7:15 - 7:45 and do the draw about 7:45ish. If the tee is busy we often hang back 15 minutes to allow it to clear a bit and then groups make their way to the tee, the later groups often waiting in the clubhouse a bit longer. If a group turns up while we're on the tee they are offered to go next.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Except juniors and ladies 'cos they play Tuesday's?

That's the ladies choice no one else's - in fact they book the wholes course out both tees from ten through to 3

 

[richart]

Including women and juniors?

Ladies and juniors play in our roll up, and quite a few of the booked competitions. Probably the more hardened ones in the roll up, as the talk can get a bit fruity.

 

[FairwayDodger]

That's the ladies choice no one else's - in fact they book the wholes course out both tees from ten through to 3

Classic.

Ok... If a new member joins, keen as anything, but works for a living. She's newish to golf and plays off 35. Saturday is the day she wants to play. Does the roll up make her welcome? Honestly?

Another question, and this isn't necessarily gender related, if a member wants to play Saturday morning but isn't comfortable in the roll up for any reason is it fair that they can't get a time?

I'm just genuinely interested, I don't know how these things play out.

 

[FairwayDodger]

How can it not be fair when anyone is free to turn up and play when they want. There seems to be an awful lot of wrong assumptions going on about clubs without TBS, like somehow those who turn up to play in a roll up are someone banishing everyone else from the course. It really doesn't happen like that in my experience, if that was the case I, as someone who joins clubs on their own, would never get a game.

Ah, think I misunderstood. I thought the roll up had a time reserved for it.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Ah, think I misunderstood. I thought the roll up had a time reserved for it.

Nope, I did edit my post to make it clearer, if the tee is busy we wait a bit, there is certainly no concept of it being our tee time

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Classic.

Ok... If a new member joins, keen as anything, but works for a living. She's newish to golf and plays off 35. Saturday is the day she wants to play. Does the roll up make her welcome? Honestly?

What's classic ?

Yes she would be made to feel welcome in the rolls up I play.

Another question, and this isn't necessarily gender related, if a member wants to play Saturday morning but isn't comfortable in the roll up for any reason is it fair that they can't get a time?

I'm just genuinely interested, I don't know how these things play out.

No it's not fair - the members turns up on the tee and then plays when it's their turn on the tee. If the roll up is there then they wait in turn unless they are a single then get alloŵed out on their own