The Footie Thread

[Lucifer MorningStar]

I watched it back before replying. If you really think that’s a foul we might as well all pack up and go home.

If all you want to do is try and prove a point, at least have a stab at being sensible about it, because that’s really rather embarrassing.

No what’s embarrassing is the bias of Utd fans complaining they didn’t get a decision that’s subjective and not everyone agree on. Letter of the law Maguire fouled the keeper you don’t have to like and you’re watching it as a Utd fan means you can’t separate your bias from the incident. I don’t think Amad had enough contact to be given but you do so what’s embarrassing there then people seeing a subjective decision differently!

The point is proven you want consistency you won’t ever get it whilst humans are making decisions. People want VAR gone and refs alone in charge then moan a ref gets it wrong. That’s what is embarrassing if you ask me grown men wanting it both ways when their team doesn’t get a decision in their favour but overlook it when it goes in their favour. The fact you’ve resorted to a rant about it being embarrassing further shows fan bias cannot accept subjectivity unless it is in their favour. On that I’m out.

 

[GreiginFife]

Ironic to mention Liverpool,followed by “stop living in the past”

It was a simple Simpsons reference. Probably best not to over think it.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Forget all that nonsense. Beto has scored against Chelsea

Since my visit to the HD Stadium Everton have had a 100% home record . Not saying there is a link but.............

 

[irip]

C’mon guys, I came on to find out how Liverpool were cheated this week and you’re still on about Man Utd.

You’re living in the past. Stop living in the past.

Liverpool were cheated out of it by lazy players thinking they are better than they are and don’t have to work as hard as their opponents.

Pretty much the same as every other game this season.

In my honest opinion of course.

 

[PaulMdj]

Any need to be so facetious, Paul? I asked a genuine question to save me wading back through multiple posts to find the answer.

As there’d been a total of around 15 posts since my post this morning, I thought you were being facetious as at no point did I mention Maquire, the only talking point, imo, was the Amad decision.

So I don’t see that as needing to wade through posts and apologise for the confusion.

 

[irip]

Forget all that nonsense. Beto has scored against Chelsea

Since my visit to the HD Stadium Everton have had a 100% home record . Not saying there is a link but.............

Did you have a wee by the corner flag?

Or even better let the players rub your head, it’s common knowledge that it’s lucky to rub a dwarfs head

 

[Billysboots]

No what’s embarrassing is the bias of Utd fans complaining they didn’t get a decision that’s subjective and not everyone agree on. Letter of the law Maguire fouled the keeper you don’t have to like and you’re watching it as a Utd fan means you can’t separate your bias from the incident. I don’t think Amad had enough contact to be given but you do so what’s embarrassing there then people seeing a subjective decision differently!

The point is proven you want consistency you won’t ever get it whilst humans are making decisions. People want VAR gone and refs alone in charge then moan a ref gets it wrong. That’s what is embarrassing if you ask me grown men wanting it both ways when their team doesn’t get a decision in their favour but overlook it when it goes in their favour. The fact you’ve resorted to a rant about it being embarrassing further shows fan bias cannot accept subjectivity unless it is in their favour. On that I’m out.

I suggest you go back and watch the second United goal.

Notwithstanding the fact that Maguire was at the far post and nowhere near the Bournemouth keeper, at no point did the keeper himself at any time make any effort to complain to the referee that he was fouled or in any way impeded by Kobbie Mainoo, who I believe was the player involved. If he thought he had been so impeded then I am quite sure he would have made his thoughts clear, especially as a goal was the result.

No bias here. It wasn’t a foul. As I have already said, I’d be disappointed if that was given at either end of the pitch. So that includes if Lammens was on the receiving end. Not only do I think it wasn’t a foul, but neither, from his reaction (or total lack of one), did the Bournemouth goalkeeper.

But you think it was, because of your desire to prove a point.

 

[Pin-seeker]

It was a simple Simpsons reference. Probably best not to over think it.

sorry.
Probably best not to be so touchy

 

[PaulMdj]

What push?!

Yes, there was a nudge on the keeper, no worse than that, and not one which had any impact on what followed. I’d be disappointed if a foul was given at either end of the pitch for something so minor. The fact that the keeper at no time made any gesture to the referee that he had been impeded perhaps gives you your answer.

All that is rather a moot point anyway, because I really am referring to a lack of consistency in relation to two virtually identical incidents.

Here’s the issue, you don’t see their keeper being impeded at the corner and describe it as a nudge, fair enough, no issue.

Just look at what @Hobbit stated before when talking about Amad “If it’s not enough to to stop a player but enough to put him off balance, surely it’s still a foul?”

So I would guess that if you’re the Ref, and see it, you say no foul, but if hobbit is the Rec and sees it, he might give it.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

I suggest you go back and watch the second United goal.

Notwithstanding the fact that Maguire was at the far post and nowhere near the Bournemouth keeper, at no point did the keeper himself at any time make any effort to complain to the referee that he was fouled or in any way impeded by Kobbie Mainoo, who I believe was the player involved. If he thought he had been so impeded then I am quite sure he would have made his thoughts clear, especially as a goal was the result.

No bias here. It wasn’t a foul. As I have already said, I’d be disappointed if that was given at either end of the pitch. So that includes if Lammens was on the receiving end. Not only do I think it wasn’t a foul, but neither, from his reaction (or total lack of one), did the Bournemouth goalkeeper.

But you think it was, because of your desire to prove a point.

I have no desire to prove a point I couldn’t care less if Utd win or lose. You’re just resorting to trying to point score because people don’t agree with you. I’m not saying anything more on the matter because you can’t accept alternative option so enjoy your evening pal

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Did you have a wee by the corner flag?

Or even better let the players rub your head, it’s common knowledge that it’s lucky to rub a dwarfs head

The day I was there, the players were away beating Newcastle . No head rubbing that day.

I did give all of the seats/benches in the home dressing room a rub though. It's clearly made the difference (I'm aware I could look stupid in 50 minutes time )

 

[Red devil]

Forget all that nonsense. Beto has scored against Chelsea

Since my visit to the HD Stadium Everton have had a 100% home record . Not saying there is a link but.............

Sprinkled your stardust

 

[Billysboots]

The point is proven

I have no desire to prove a point

Make your mind up

I’m done. Good discussion, but time to do my duties in the kitchen and whip up dinner for the good lady.

Enjoy your evening.

 

[HampshireHog]

Is there a worse first choice keeper in the Premier League than Sanchez?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Make your mind up

I’m done. Good discussion, but time to do my duties in the kitchen and whip up dinner for the good lady.

Enjoy your evening.

Well played sir

No offence @Lucifer MorningStar but he’s done you like a kipper here

 

[Billysboots]

Is there a worse first choice keeper in the Premier League than Sanchez?

Not now Onana has gone.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Is there a worse first choice keeper in the Premier League than Sanchez?

Onana…… oh wait,no I don’t think there is.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Not now Onana has gone.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Is there a worse first choice keeper in the Premier League than Sanchez?

Not sure the Spurs fella is up to much but it's a close call right now.

Where has this version of Beto been? No need to buy another striker if he plays like this every week.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Well played sir

No offence @Lucifer MorningStar but he’s done you like a kipper here

Yeah you’re right he’s has great moderating that pulling separate pieces of 2 posts together. I applaud him for that something Utd couldn’t do against Bournemouth hold on to those 2 points

Also context is key 2 separate posts that evolved but we’ll ignore that